Andre's poster was an attachment. Anyone who would like a copy email me off list. Paul -----Original Message----- From: acvachon@videotron.ca Hello everyone, The Lejeune Book is coming soon... I have to completed the Louisiana Chapter and I have to review the other chapters. I'm still looking for heirloom pictures of the Lejeunes and the Youngs to embellish the book. If you can, could you please display the publicity (see the attachment). Thanks for all your help! Andre P.S. Does someone could contact the Lejeune Bakery in Jeanerette? Does someone could contact the family Iry Lejeune? Why? I would like to get the permissions needed to publish their genealogy and pictures. ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello everyone, The Lejeune Book is coming soon... I have to completed the Louisiana Chapter and I have to review the other chapters. I'm still looking for heirloom pictures of the Lejeunes and the Youngs to embellish the book. If you can, could you please display the publicity (see the attachment). Thanks for all your help! Andre P.S. Does someone could contact the Lejeune Bakery in Jeanerette? Does someone could contact the family Iry Lejeune? Why? I would like to get the permissions needed to publish their genealogy and pictures.
Meeting this Saturday!! Write me off list for a membership application Paul Le B(lanc ======================================= Famille Trahan Volume XII ENSEMBLE ENCORE Fall Issue 2010 Joint Gathering scheduled for November 6, 2010 Presidents Corner By Loubert Trahan Well its’s time again for a little get together, and again it is with the Broussard “Famille Beausoleil”, and also the Thibodeaux”s will join our group. The big thing on the agenda will be a discussion of what activities will be and and how our individual families will participate in the October 2011 Great Acadian Awakening, know as “Grand Reveil Acadien” This celebration will be held in four regions of Acadiana: New Orleans, Houma, Lake Charles, and Lafayette. We are looking for ideas and solutions of what our part will be, so naturally we will being looking for volunteers. Lunch will be served at the Gathering on November 6th at the Woodmen of World Hall in Maurice. The menu is still under discussion, and there are several choices to consider, but we can guarantee a good meal. Looking forward to seeing you on the 6th. Please Remember to make your meal reservations if you plan on eating Lunch. Call: Mitch - 337-989-0319 email – whiskey6@lusfiber.net Loubert - 337-893-2084 email – lgtrahan@cox.net Corwin – 337-984-3752 email – crbrouss@bellsouth.net MINUTES By Rosie Trahan Trahan Family Association met in regular session on April 24, 2010 in Maurice at the Woodmen of the World Hall in conjunction with Broussard Family Association. Corwin Broussard, President, Broussard Family Assn. presided. Don Lewis Broussard gave the invocation/meal blessing and Loubert Trahan led in Pledge of Allegiance in English and Charles Trahan led in French. Broussard: Corwin told of the Great Acadian Awakening 2011 to be held October 7-16, 2011 – an event to awaken the realization that we are losing our language, culture, and coastal lands and to seek support, partnerships, solutions and concerted plans of action through large gatherings with Acadians from all over the world. Scheduled events: Oct. 7-8 - Unveiling of Acadian Monument and Showcase New Orleans area; Oct. 9-10 - Showcase Houma area; Oct. 11-12 - Showcase Lake Charles area; Oct. 13 -Ceremonies in Lafayette; Oct. 14 - Showcase Lafayette area; Oct. 15 - Festival des Acadiens et Creoles; Oct.16 - Closing ceremonies. More info: www.gra2011.org. Trahan: Loubert Trahan, President, Trahan Family Assn., made reference to GRA 2011 noting that with the active interest of younger members and UL organizations and help from CODOFIL it should be a good event; also offered support toward an activity for Trahan/Broussard members at that time. Minutes of the last meeting were circulated/received in newsletter; Treasurer Gloria Viator reported association membership is 192, of which paid membership is 108. CAFA: James Bourque, President, said that at one time 40 family associations made up CAFA, but last year only 15 associations were represented. At the last meeting in St. Martinville for the Spring Festival only 6 board members were present. These members voted for CAFA to move under the umbrella of Louisiane - Acadie, Inc. To be able to use their 501C-3 status CAFA Treasurer Loubert Trahan explained the financial matters: CAFA will retain 1) the use of its money but a partial amount will be moved to an escrow account under Louisiane-Acadie; 2) the Treasurer; and 3) its board members to designate how the monies will be spent. Also, at the meeting straws were drawn for the Scholarship to St. Anne this coming summer - Haley Vincent from Kaplan received the first place drawing - since her family are members of Trahan Family Assn. asked for a motion that the Trahan Family Assn contribute $500 to add to this scholarship - Margaret Trahan made this motion; Robert Trahan seconded; motion passed. The Boudreaux Family Assn. Is also contributing $500 which will make a total scholarship amount of $2000. Shirley Thibodeaux, President, Thibodeaux Family Assn., said she would keep her office until next year and asked that her association be included next year for the Great Acadian Awakening 2011. Warren Perron introduced visitors Daniel Theriot from Caraket a province of Nova Scotia, president of Festival Acadienne (to be held Aug. 1 - 15) and Jean Robert Fregal from New Brunswick who is helping out with Erath Museum. Perron said a group of LSU and UL professors studied the technique the Acadians used their system to clear the salt water out of their marshes and prepared this exhibit, Farming the Wetlands of Acadie, which toured for two years. The Erath Museum will be the permanent home of this project and an artifact, a piece of the aboiteau built by Beausoleil. Don Arceneaux (Idaho) attended and gave remarks on the Thibodeau(x)/Broussard Reunion while at the Congres Mondial 2009. He was asked for photographs of his Broussard Ancestors for a book being written, “Look Into My Eyes”, and appealed to each of us to collect photos of our ancestors and tp take a look into their eyes. Gracie (age 11) and Julie (age 9) Babineaux and Neil Broussard entertained with music. Door prizes were drawn, meal was served, and the Gathering was adjourned. Note: I would encourage all our members to support our schools; I suggest a way to support the schools without donating money, and with little time involved. I refer to BOX TOPS for Education, printed on packaging of the following products: Kleenex, Pillsbury Products, Betty Crocker Products, Cherrios, Green Giant Products, Zip Lock Bags, Scott Paper Products, Huggies, and Hefty Products. While I have listed several products that support the school program, there are many others; please check the products you buy, and if label or box top supports a school program, bring it to us. Also Campbell Soup Labels support schools, and many of you already purchase many of these items. The labels from Swanson products, including labels from their Chicken, Vegetable, and Beef Broth cans. If convenient deposit the labels at Genealogy Table with Mitch. Another option is to mail to Mitch Conover, 300 Strasbourg Drive, Lafayette, LA. 70506. The labels and Box Tops will be delivered to Education Office. Looking for someone to assume the role of Editor of “Famille Trahan” I have been advised by Mitch that he will be stepping down as the Editor of “Famille Trahan” following our November Gathering. The belief by Mitch is that it is time for Someone else to take assume function, someone that can bring new ideas that will continue our coverage and at same time appeal to the younger generation. It goes without saying, that this organization, as is true with all successful organizations, Require us to maintain our current membership, attract new members, and to attract more young members. Anyone interested in being the editor can contact me by phone, e-mail, or at Gathering; note my contact information on previous page.. Invitation to all to attend “Living Legend” induction ceremony: Recent inductions included Lt. General Russel L. Honoré (Ret.), Bernie David, Camey Doucet, Tim Creswell, and Harold Schoeffler. Upcoming inductions are as follows: Kermit Miller on November 20th and Willis & Edith Granger on December 18th, Dr. John A. Bertrand on January 15th, August Broussard on February 26th, and Dotsie LeBlanc on March 12th. The programs begin at 4:00 p.m. at the Museum Café in Erath and include a Cajun music jam session beginning at 1:00 p.m. Everyone is invited to attend. For more information, (337) 937-0012. • With the help of Dr. David Cheramie, Director of CODOFIL, and Sen. Eric Lafleur, Louisiana has again been invited to attend the World Francophone Summit October 20 - 25 to be held in Montreux, Switzerland. The Honorary Counsel-General of Senegal, Lynn Robinson, has arranged for the members of the Louisiana delegation to meet with the former President of Senegal, Abdou Diouf. We will extend an invitation to him to come to visit Louisiana and receive an Honorary Doctorate degree from Xavier University. • The Acadian museum received a $15,000 Save Our History Grant for its contributions to preserving our unique history. Thanks, Warren A. Perrin P. O. Box 53597 Lafayette, LA 70505 (337) 233-5832 perrin@plddo.com I would like to take this opportunity to express my thanks to all that have contributed to make this Famille Trahan such a successful organization. I would start with those involved from the “Draft a President Days” (poor Charles!!) and include all who cared and shared their time and concern for this venture. I think of Glady Trahan, now deceased, and his devotion; of Mike “T-Boy” Trahan and his many hours of putting together brochures and mailers; Julius Trahan, now deceased, who served as our first Vice President; Wilda Lantier Trahan and her contributions to genealogy; Glenn Ray Trahan who sponsored meeting and meal at his camp. No list would be complete without naming Charles and Mona Falcon Trahan and their contribution (still on going), of Charles’s sisters and his in-laws; Ray and Brenda Comeaux Trahan, our second President, and his brother; and Loubert Trahan and his beloved Anna (now deceased) and the support they brought forth: the Red Barn, cooking, serving as Treasurer, and finally becoming our 3rd and current President. John Dudley and Delores Trahan for the wonderful food and menus that they prepared and served at conclusion of most of oyr meetings. And the man I most admired from the beginning, Judge Marcel Trahan, now deceased, of Quebec, Canada; his lovely daughter Anne-Marie carries on the tradition he gave us in 1986 at Trois-Riviere, Quebec. Yes, and Father Clarence d’Entremont, also now deceased, who provided insight to the Trahan Roots, and provided me with many answers on Trahan Ancestry (and Broussard). I will continue genealogy support, but we now need a new editor for Newsletter. My sincere thanks to all, and if I failed to mention your name, I haven’t forgotten your contributions. Mitch NOTE: On the newsletter, please check the date on the mailing label, this indicates your Membership Due Date Membership Application/Renewal (Renewals: if you have no change, just send this form with your name to renew your membership. Directions to Woodmen of World Hall in Maurice, Louisiana: If you are traveling on U.S. Highway 167 from Lafayette to the South, turn right at Signal Light in Maurice (Hwy 92), and proceed approximately 1/4 mile, and Woodmen of World Hall will be on your left. If you are traveling North on U. S. Highway 167 from direction of Abbeville to Lafayette, turn Left at Red Light in Maurice (Hwy 92), and proceed approximately 1/4 mile, Woodmen of World Hall is on your Left. If you are traveling East on Hwy 92 toward Maurice, the Woodmen of World Hall is on your Right as you approach city limits.
Hello everyone, Did someone have the description of the Lejeune Coast of arms who was in the Acadian Memorial in St. Martinville? Best regards, Andre
Karen, I agree with all that you mentioned in your latest post concerning Paul Guédry and Anne Mius being the probable parents of Claude Guédry, huband of Anne LeJeune and Anne Moise. In that post you mentioned in item 2 that Marie-Josephe Guédry (age 28 in 1752) was the daughter of Paul Guédry and Anne Mius. This Marie-Josephe Guédry was the daughter of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert rather than Paul Guédry and Anne Mius. She actually is one of the twins born in 1723 to Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert and mentioned in item 4 of your note. The evidence for this is: Regarding Marie-Josephe Guédry, wife of Charles Boutin - this Marie-Josephe Guédry was the daughter of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert. This Marie-Josepeh Guédry was born in Boston, MA in 1723 and was the twin of Hélène Guédry. Her baptismal record is in the St-Charles-aux-Mines Catholic Church Registers of Grand-Pré, Acadie (Volume 2, No. 42). Evidence that the Marie-Josephe Guédry who married Charles Boutin was the daughter of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert can be found in several sources. For example, in 1752 this family is living at Baie-des-Espagnols, Ile Royale near Paul Boutin and Ursule Guédry. Paul Boutin and Charles Boutin were brothers. Ursule Guédry (also called Eustache Guédry) was the daughter of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert. Living with Charles Boutin and Marie-Josephe Guédry was Hélène Guédry (also called Eleine Guédry), the sister of Marie-Josephe Guédry. Additionally, in August 1754 nine Acadian men and their families returned from Ile Royale to Halifax and then Lunenburg. Included were Paul Boutin and Charles Boutin. All of the Guédry persons returning were children of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert and included all of their children except Jean-Baptiste Guédry. There are additional circumstantial pieces of evidence and more can be found at the above link under the title "Guédry's Exiled to North Carolina". To the best of my knowledge Paul Guédry and Anne Mius did not have a daughter named Marie Josephe Guédry. Your argument in item 2 certainly is still valid. Instead of using Marie-Josephe Guédry as the older of the pair, one would use Jacques, born about 1724 and who would have been about 28 in 1752. Thanks for your response and followup to my query. Marty -- Martin Guidry 6139 North Shore Drive Baton Rouge, LA 70817 225-202-2478 (cell) guidryrm@cox.net Les Guédry d'Asteur, Inc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guedrylabinefamily http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/Guedry-Labine http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/clotiaux http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/butaud
Looking for birth information/parents for the Marie Guidry who m. Eugene Carlin on 6 Sep 1833 in New Orleans. Thanks! cheers, Gordon
Stanley, Thanks to your posting I think I have the two brothers named Joseph LEJEUNE straightened out. I agree with Paul that Hilaire died young. And the younger brother Joseph took the name Ocier/Ozier later in life. These entries are from Hebert's SWLR-CD. THE ELDER JOSEPH LEJEUNE-- LEJEUNE, Joseph (Blaise & Marie Josephe BREAU - of Acadia) m. 21 Nov. 1796 Genevieve JANIS - of Acadia (Hubert & Marie BRASEUSE) Wits: Huber JANY fils, Joseph LEJEUNE. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.70) Children born 1798 - 1819. This Joseph would be the 1-year-old son found with Blaise LE JEUNE age 27 and his wife Marie Joseph BRAUX, age 30, on the 1777 census: Winston De Ville, comp., Southwest Louisiana Families in 1777: Census Records of Attakapas and Opelousas Posts (Ville Platte, LA: Author, 1987), p. 27, #130. ---------------------------------------------------- THE YOUNGER JOSEPH (OCIER) LEJEUNE LEJEUNE, Joseph - of this parish (Blaise & Marie Josephe BROW [BREAUX]) m. 13 Aug. 1805 Euphrosine CARRIERE - also of this parish (Michel & Julienne MARCANTEL) Wits: Charles TRAHAN, Michel CARRIERE, Jean Baptiste LEJEUNE. Fr. Louis BUHOT (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.144) Children born 1806 - 1824. This Joseph's baptism is also in SWLR: LEJEUNE, Joseph (Blaise & Marie Josephe BROT) bt. 2 July 1780 at age 5 mths. Spons: Joseph LEJEUNE & Susanne THIBAUDO. Fr. L.M. GRUMEAU (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.36) Occasonally known as: Joseph Ozier, Joseph Olivier, Ozier, Ozieur, Auserra, later in life. CARRIERE, Michel wid. is Julienne MARCANTEL 2 minor children: Zenon and Joseph. Also Michel, Don Louis, Froisine m. Auserra [Ozier] LEJEUNE, Modeste m. Eloi DOUCET. Succ. dated 12 Feb. 1816 (Opel. Ct.Hse.: Succ.#76) MARCANTEL, Julienne wid. of Michel CARRIERE Children: Joseph CARRIERE; Louis; Michel; Zenon; Euphrozine m. Ozier LEJEUNE; Modeste m. Eloi DOUCET. Succ. dated: Oct. 1820 (Opel. Ct.Hse.: Succ.#180) LEJEUNE, Ozier m. Euphrosine CARRIER; Children: Louis; Etienne; Charles; Dufrillon; Josephine; Julien. Succ. dated 7 Dec. 1825 (Opel. Ct.Hse.: Succ.#385) LEJEUNE, Julien (Ozier & Euphrosine CARRIER) m. 14 Sept. 1827 Eliza YOUNG - 15 yrs. old (Opel. Ct.Hse.: Mar.#57) LEJEUNE, Louis - native of this parish (major son of Ozier & dec. Euphrosine CARRIERE) m. 16 June 1829 Caroline YOUNG - native of this parish (minor daughter of Pierre & Marie Louise FONTENOT) Wits: William REED, William HARGRAVE, Peter YOUNG, Pierre Ursin MANUEL. Fr. Flavius Henri ROSSI (Opel.Ch.: v.1-B, p.541) ------------------------------------- A few random entries to further confuse things: JANIS, Joseph (Jacques & Marie Anne BAGUETTE) m. 9 May 1772 Genevieve LEJEUNE (PC Ct. Hse.: v. 1771, #493) LEJEUNE, Genevieve (Michel & Magdaleine HAVETTE) m. 9 May 1771 Joseph JANISSE (PC Ct. Hse.: v.1771, #493) JANIS, Marie Aurore - native of this parish (minor daughter of Mamert JANNY & Francoise LANGLOIS) m. 11 July 1826 Joseph Olivier LEJEUNE - native of this parish (major son of Joseph & Genevieve JANNY) Wits: Anselme DOUCET, Antoine Pierre FRUGE. Fr. Flavius Henri ROSSI (Opel.Ch.: v.1-B, p.468) Karen Theriot Reader
Gordon, I never saw an answer to your question, so I took a look for you. I think the following entries prove that Martin Camersac LEBLEU & Bartolome LEBLEU are the same person. To be 100% sure, I think you would have to read Martin COMERSAC LEBLEU's will at the LSAR or perhaps someone else could provide more proof. 1 -- On 26 Oct 1769, Barthelmy LEBLEUX married Marie Josephe De LA MIRANDE. "De LA MIRANDE, Marie Josephe (Joseph De LA MIRANDE & Hypolite [omitted]) native of Kaskaskia, Illinois, Parish of Immaculate Conception, married 16 October 1769 Barthelmy LEBLEUX (Louis LEBLEUX & Marie GENTILS, both deceased) of Arkansas. [both residents at the Opelousas, went to Pointe Coupee to have the nuptual benediction since there was no priest at Opelousas.] Witnesses who signed: Josephe De La MIRNADE, fils (Jr), Marie CHAUVIN, COURTABLEAU, BARON, fils (Jr). Fr. IRENNE, Cap(uchin)." (DBR Vol. 1b, Pages 51 & 104 (PCP-4, 47 also PCP-2, 83)) 2 -- On 30 Oct 1789, Arsene LEBLEU the son of Bartholomew BLEUVE & Marie Josephe LA MIRANDE is baptized. "LEBLEU, Arsene (Bartholomew BLEUVE & Marie Josephe LA MIRANDE) bt. 30 Oct. 1789 - supplied ceremony for baptism which was previously performed at home. Spons: Joseph TESIER & Hipolitte BARTHOLOMEW. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA, Capuchin priest." (Opel Ch Vol. 1A, Page 94) 3 -- On 22 Jun 1816, The baptism of Arsene's son, Martin LEBLEU, lists the paternal grandparents as Martin CAMARSAC & Jospehe LAMIRANDE. "LEBLEU, Martin (Celeste ANDRES & according to what they declared to me - Arsene LEBLEU, of this parish) b. 1 Dec. 1815, bt. 22 June 1816 Pats: Martin CAMARSAC - from around Bordeaux in France & Josephe LAMIRANDE; Mats: Benjamin ANDRES - of Atakapas & Marthe HAYSE - from Natches, inhabiting "La Riviere Carcoussion" [Calcasieu River]; Spons: Martin LEBLEU & Sarah ANDRES. Fr. Michel Bernard BARRIERE." (Opel Ch Vol. 2, Page 80) 4 -- On 21 Feb 1817, Martin LEBLEU COMERSAC's will was probated (He had actually died in 1797.) "LEBLEU, Arsene (Martin & Josette LAMIRANDE) In will of Martin COMERSAC dated 21 Feb. 1817 (LSAR: Opel.:1817)" "LEBLEU, Martin - natural children with Josette LAMIRANDE: Arsene; Baptiste; Martin; Catherine m. Charles SALLIER. He states that he never married. Will dated 21 Feb. 1817 (LSAR: Opel.:1817) Cheers, Gary Darnsteadt -----Original Message----- From: acadian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:acadian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Bonnet Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:12 AM To: acadian@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN] LeBleu confusion? Hi all, Are Martin Camersac dit LeBleu and Bartolome LeBleu the same person? It appears that a lot of people think so, but I wonder. There's the following record of Martin: LEBLEU, Martin - natural children with Josette LAMIRANDE: Arsene; Baptiste; Martin; Catherine m. Charles SALLIER. He states that he never married. Will dated 21 Feb. 1817 (LSAR: Opel:1817) Josette is also called (in other records) Marie Josephe. Then, there's the following: LEBLEU, Hipollite (Bartholome & Marie Josephe DE LA MIRANDE) bt. 11 Oct. 1780 at age 2 mths. Spons: Joseph ROMAN & Louise FONTENEAU. Fr. L.M. GRUMEAU (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.39) Hypolite's father is called Bartholome. The mother appears to be the same...? (Incidentally, although Hypolite is usually a man's name, this one appears to be a woman: BENOIT, Sebastien - widower of Carcachou [Calcasieu] River m. 20 Aug. 1800 Hipolite LEBLEU - of Calcasieu River (Barthelemy & Marie Josephe LAMIRANDE) Wits: Charles EBERE [HEBERT], Joseph CANPOS, PHAVRON. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.90) Note that the father is still Barthelemy, not Martin.) Can anyone clear this up? Thanks, Gordon ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks C It looks like his Hilaire died at age 4 LEJEUNE, Hilaire (Blaise & Marie Josephe BROH [BRO or BREAUX]) bt. 28 July 1782 at age 3 mths. Spons: Blaise LEJEUNE - his brother, represented by Victor RICHARD & Magdelaine BENOIST. Fr. L.M. GRUMEAU (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.27) LEJEUNE, Hilaire bur. 16 May 1786 at age 4 yrs. Fr. Joseph de ARAZENA (Opel. Ch.: Folio OA, p.25) ======================== From: Stanley LeBlanc Karen, Ozier was Hilaire [aka Joseph Hilaire], son of Blaise and Marie Josephe Breaux. It took me a while to sort it out because he had a brother named Joseph who married Genevieve Janis. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com
Karen, Ozier was Hilaire [aka Joseph Hilaire], son of Blaise and Marie Josephe Breaux. It took me a while to sort it out because he had a brother named Joseph who married Genevieve Janis. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com ________________________________ From: "acvachon@videotron.ca" <acvachon@videotron.ca> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 5:20:28 PM Subject: [ACADIAN] Re : Re: Lejeune/Young incompleted record - need help ! Thanks Karen and Paul! Andre ----- Message d'origine ----- De: KATheriot@aol.com Date: Mercredi, 20 Octobre 2010, 11:50 am Objet: Re: [ACADIAN] Lejeune/Young incompleted record - need help ! À: acadian@rootsweb.com > Do these records from SWLR-CD help sort out some? > > LEJEUNE, Louis - native of this parish (major son of Ozier > & dec. > Euphrosine CARRIERE) m. 16 June 1829 Caroline YOUNG - > native of this parish > (minor daughter of Pierre & Marie Louise FONTENOT) > Wits: William REED, William > HARGRAVE, Peter YOUNG, Pierre Ursin MANUEL. Fr. > Flavius Henri ROSSI > (Opel.Ch.: v.1-B, p.541) > > LEJEUNE, Louis (Louis & Caroline LEJEUNE) b. 30 May 1830, > bt. 14 July 1830 > Pats: Ozieur LEJEUNE & Euphrasie CARRIERE; > Mats: Pierre LEJEUNE & Marie > Louise FONTENOT; Spons: Pierre LEJEUNE & Louise > LEJEUNE. Fr. Flavius Henri > ROSSI (Opel. Ch.: v.3, p.120) > > The parents were 2nd cousins. > > Karen Theriot Reader > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You > will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" > enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to > call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Paul for all! Andre ----- Message d'origine ----- De: acvachon@videotron.ca Date: Lundi, 18 Octobre 2010, 5:17 pm Objet: [ACADIAN] Lejeune/Young incompleted record - need help ! À: acadian@rootsweb.com > Hello everyone! > I need help with those incompleted record... Can someone > help me, please? > > 1- Emilie YOUNG (PARENTS MISSING) married Henry Pierre Ursine > MANUEL (PARENTS MISSING), 14 August 1854 Opelousas > > 2- Louis LEJEUNE/YOUNG (PARENTS MISSING) married Louisa LEJEUNE > (PARENTS MISSING), 17 August 1837 Opelousas > > 3- Onezime YOUNG (PARENTS MISSING) married Louisa YOUNG (PARENTS > MISSING), 3 July 1857 Opelousas > > 4- Celestine YOUNG (PARENTS MISSING) married Joseph STROUD > (PARENTS MISSING), 20 October 1842 Opelousas > > 5- Celestine YOUNG (PARENTS MISSING) married Thomas J WATKINS > (PARENTS MISSING), 8 July 1842 Opelousas > > Thanks for all! > Andre > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You > will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" > enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to > call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Karen! Andre ----- Message d'origine ----- De: KATheriot@aol.com Date: Mercredi, 20 Octobre 2010, 11:50 am Objet: Re: [ACADIAN] Lejeune/Young incompleted record - need help ! À: acadian@rootsweb.com > Do these records from SWLR-CD help sort out some? > > LEJEUNE, Louis - native of this parish (major son of Ozier > & dec. > Euphrosine CARRIERE) m. 16 June 1829 Caroline YOUNG - > native of this parish > (minor daughter of Pierre & Marie Louise FONTENOT) > Wits: William REED, William > HARGRAVE, Peter YOUNG, Pierre Ursin MANUEL. Fr. > Flavius Henri ROSSI > (Opel.Ch.: v.1-B, p.541) > > LEJEUNE, Louis (Louis & Caroline LEJEUNE) b. 30 May 1830, > bt. 14 July 1830 > Pats: Ozieur LEJEUNE & Euphrasie CARRIERE; > Mats: Pierre LEJEUNE & Marie > Louise FONTENOT; Spons: Pierre LEJEUNE & Louise > LEJEUNE. Fr. Flavius Henri > ROSSI (Opel. Ch.: v.3, p.120) > > The parents were 2nd cousins. > > Karen Theriot Reader > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You > will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" > enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to > call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Paul, Marriage record for Claude GUEDRY & 2nd wife. Parents were often not listed for widowers and widows, just the name of the deceased spouse. From: Albert J. Robichaux, Acadian Exiles in Saint-Malo, The, pt. II (Eunice, LA, Hebert Publications, 1981), p. 1113. Claude GUEDRI, widower of Anne LE JEUNE, resident of Chateauneuf, married 3 Feb 1762 to Anne MOYSE, widow of Joseph LE BLANC, resident of St. Suliac. Dispensation was obtained dated 6 Jun 1761 for an impediment of consanguinity [sic] of 3rd to 4th degree. Three banns were made on 10, 17 and 24 Jan 1762 in both parish churches. Witnesses: Antoine BRAU (signed BRAUX); Pierre HENRI (signed HENRY); Jean GOELLOT (signed Jan GOUELLO); Guillaume GRAFFARD. Married in the Chapel of the Ville-aux-Nonains by J. AUBRE, priest. [The two of Claude's wives were 2nd cousins one time removed, making for affinity 3rd to 4th degree.] Marie GUEDRY (who married as 2nd wife of Germain LEJEUNE), daughter of Jean Baptiste GUEDRY, & this Claude GUEDRY were 1st cousins, no matter who the parents of Claude were (unless they were siblings, of course). They shared grandparents Claude GUEDRY dit Grivois & Marguerite PETITPAS. I guess I favor the Paul GUEDRY & Anne Marie MIUS couple as parents of Claude (born about 1726) because: 1) The 1752 census record cannot be trusted--not only the name of the wife is incorrect, but the ages do not tally with any later census reports for this couple Claude & Anne. I question the string of (sic)s that Stephen White had to insert for his ages as given. I think the informant at this household on Isle St. Jean was guessing, rather than the usually careful La Roque was at fault. 2) If you accept the "around 1726" birth date for Claude (and Marty's evidence seems to be convincing to me), then there is a gap in the known births of children of Paul GUEDRY & Anne Marie MIUS, between Marie Josephe (age 28 in 1752) and Jean (dit Grivois) (22 in 1752). Claude would fit in nicely, at age 24 to 26. 3) I think it possible that Madeleine MIUS, wife of Jean Baptiste GUEDRY (who was hanged), died young, after the birth of three children, the last in 1716. I think Jean Baptiste would more likely have attempted his "piracy" with no wife to deter him. You will notice in the account published by Father d'Entremont (#5)(_http://www.museeacadien.ca/english/archives/articles/index.htm_ (http://www.museeacadien.ca/english/archives/articles/index.htm) ) that they brought Jean Baptiste's mother (Marguerite PETITPAS) aboard to talk him into relinquishing the captured ship, not a wife. 4) The list of children of Augustin GUEDRY & Jeanne HEBERT does not seem to leave room for a birth around 1726, given the usual distances between the children. Only the twins born in 1723 in Boston have birth records, but the estimates seem accurate for the rest: Jeanne, about 1725; Jean Baptiste, about 1728; Ursule, about 1731; Joseph, about 1735, etc. 5) Pierre GUEDRY & Maguerite BRASSAUD married around 1721, and had children born even more closely together, with a son Charles documented on 10 Feb 1726. There is probably no space for a baby Claude. I think as a mother and grandmother I give more weight than most to the reproductive details of child bearing--the spaces between children, the fertility of a couple, the mother's age at first and last birth. This has some bearing on my feelings here. Karen Theriot Reader
I spoke with Alice last week. They had moved across the Pearl River & the Trailers are now in Mississippi. After Augies birthday next week they are going to Galveston TX. She will have use of a computer so look for her new email address. After Galveston she will be south of Dallas for a while and is going to spend some time with a granddaughter in Houston. Probably back to Perlington MS around the first of the year, Soon as she gets settled I will pass the info on. Paul Le B(lanc) l'Ascension Louisiane
Vol 2 is finally back in print!!! Use the link below for all the details. These are the records along the river & bayou Lafouche for the early years after arrival in Louisiana. They cover the early years of many of the passengers of the 7 ships of 1785 until the founding of the Thibodaux church in 1794. Vol 10 1863-1865 is now OUT OF PRINT and they do not have an estimated date for reprint. Also available is the entries without family names (slave & Indian entries) for East & West Baton Rouge & the Feliciana 1800-1880. It is not yet on the website but the info is the same as the earlier Pointe Coupee book. http://www.diobr.org/archives/published_sacramental_records.htm Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane
-----Original Message----- From: R. Martin Guidry Hi, Thanks for your response to my query. I, also, cannot say with certainty who the parents of Claude Guédry, husband of Anne LeJeune and Anne Moise, were. I am hoping there may be an extant record that may provide the needed clue(s) to solve this problem. I do not believe that is was Jean-Baptiste Guédry and Madeleine Mius nor Charles Guédry; however, I cannot definitely rule them out. I do believe the evidence points away from them; however, your arguments certainly are correct as to the possibility. The marriage of Claude Guédry and Anne Moise occurred at the Catholic Church in St. Suliac, France on 3 February 1762. A translated copy of this marriage document can be found on page 128 of "Acadian Marriages in France - Department of Ille-et-Vilaine, 1759-1776" by Albert J. Robichaux, Jr. published by Mr. Robichaud in 1976. In this marriage document it mentions that the couple received a dispensation of impediment of consanguinity of third to fourth degree. I have looked at the genealogies of Anne Moise and Claude Guédry and could not find any third to fourth degree impediment of consanguinity. However, Anne LeJeune and Anne Moise were related in the third to fourth degree through their Brun lines as noted by Stephen White in his "Dictionnaire Généalogique des Families Acadiennes" on page 774 and on page 158 of the English Supplement. The marriage document apparently was in error and should have said impediment of affinity rather than consanguinity. The marriage document does not mention the parents of either Claude Guédry nor Anne Moise. Furthermore, no relationships could be diciphered from the witnesses to the marriage. I really appreciate your comments. As I stated, I can find no evidence anywhere as to who the parents of this Claude Guédry were although several folks have assigned him to either Jean-Baptiste Guédry and Madeleine Mius or to Charles Guidry and "Morningstar". I believe the evidence points elsewhere, but at this time cannot prove it. Marty -- Martin Guidry 6139 North Shore Drive Baton Rouge, LA 70817 225-202-2478 (cell) guidryrm@cox.net Les Guédry d'Asteur, Inc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guedrylabinefamily http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/Guedry-Labine http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/clotiaux http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/butaud --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: cvanduzee@msn.com Karen I see the descrepancies about the age of Claude Guédry, but I see nothing of what you said referring to Claude's parentage. We have no information to lead us in the correct direction as to the correct age of Claude. The age found in the Laroque census could very well be correct. We notice that Anne is reported to be a Theriot (an obvious copy of the wife in the previous entry). She is also shown as being 38a which could be a copy of Claude's age. But we know that Anne Lejeune was probably 10 yrs. younger. Many census takers over time try to make couples nearly the same age which would explain the ages reported in France. Who has a register copy for Claude's second marriage? Mr. White refers to a dispensation for affinity for this marriage. Were the parents of Claude not listed? Another line of thought begins with the fact that Anne Lejeune's father Germaine took as his second wife Marie Guédry (a daughter of Jean Baptiste hung in Boston and Madeline Mius). This shows a very familial association. I honestly cannot make a conclusion as to who the parents of Claude were. But there is absolutely nothing to show he was from a different brother. .....and his age reported in France could also be correct and he be the son of JB-Madeleine Mius!!! JB was hung in 1726 and Madeleine was barely into her 30's. Many families have a child 10 yrs. after the previous child --- also there could have been many more children in the middle --- they were lost in history or died at a very young age!!! C
-----Original Message----- From: R. Martin Guidry Karen, Thanks for your response to my query. Thanks especially for the references to the births and baptisms of Claude Guédry and Anne LeJeune's three younger sons. I have the reference you cited and will review it this evening for additional clues. Reference Jean-Baptiste Guédry, husband of Anne DuPuis, being the son of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert - Ronnie Gilles-LeBlanc is almost certainly correct. See the article below where land records in Louisiana were used to show this relationship. I've copied the article below and it can found at the website link below under the title "An Interesting Genealogical Puzzle". http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~guedrylabinefamily/history.html Regarding Marie-Josephe Guédry, wife of Charles Boutin - this Marie-Josephe Guédry was the daughter of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert. This Marie-Joseph Guédry was born in Boston, MA in 1723 and was the twin of Hélène Guédry. Additional circumstantial evidence that the Marie-Josephe Guédry who married Charles Boutin was the daughter of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert can be found in several sources. For example, in 1752 this family is living at Baie-des-Espagnols, Ile Royale near Paul Boutin and Ursule Guédry. Paul Boutin and Charles Boutin were brothers. Ursule Guédry (also called Eustache Guédry) was the daughter of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert. Living with Charles Boutin and Marie-Josephe Guédry was Hélène Guédry (also called Eleine Guédry), the sister of Marie-Josephe Guédry. Additionally, in August 1754 nine Acadian men and their families returned from Ile Royale to Halifax and then Lunenburg. Included were Paul Boutin and Charles Boutin. All of the Guédry persons returning were children of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert and included all of their children except Jean-Baptiste Guédry. There are additional circumstantial pieces of evidence and more can be found at the above link under the title "Guédry's Exiled to North Carolina". Paul Guédry and Anne Mius had a daughter Judith Guédry born in late 1722 and a son Jacques Guédry born in 1724. It is unlikely that they had a daughter Marie-Josephe born in 1723 or 1724 due to the short time between the births of Judith and Jacques. For Paul Guédry and Anne Mius' family see the above link under the title "Survival of a Family - The Family of Paul Guidry dit Jovial and Anne Mius d'Entremont d'Azit de Pobomcoup". Yes, I believe I am a member of that GUIDRY DNA Project and would like to see others join. Not sure how to go about that. By the way my gut feeling is that Claude Guédry, husband of Anne LeJeune and Anne Moise, is the son of Paul Guédry and Anne Mius; however, I can find any evidence to rule out Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert. Thanks again for your very informative response, Marty -- Martin Guidry 6139 North Shore Drive Baton Rouge, LA 70817 225-202-2478 (cell) guidryrm@cox.net Les Guédry d'Asteur, Inc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guedrylabinefamily http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/Guedry-Labine http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/clotiaux http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/butaud AN INTERESTING GENEALOGICAL PUZZLE: USING LAND RECORDS TO DETERMINE PARENTAGE - JEAN-BAPTISTE GUÉDRY, HUSBAND OF ANNE MAGDELEINE DUPUIS by Marty Guidry For many years genealogists in Louisiana diligently traced ancestry to Jean-Baptiste Guédry and Anne Magdeleine Dupuis; however, they had difficulty bridging the gap between Jean-Baptiste Guédry and Claude Guédry, the first known Guédry in Acadia. In 1994, Daniel C. “Chuck” Guidry and Audrey Westerman published a paper in Terrebonne Life Lines in which they used extant land records to identify the parents of Jean Guedry as Jean-Baptiste Guédry and Anne Magdeleine Dupuis.1Through their excellent research the parents of Jean-Baptiste Guédry are identified. The earliest known record of Jean-Baptiste Guédry, husband of Anne Magdeleine Dupuis, is the 7 July 1763 list of Acadians at Port Tobacco, MD desiring to return to France.2,3 Here one finds: Etat des gens neutrals acadiens qui sont a portabaco. En Maryland 7 juillet 1763 . . . jean Gaidris, anne Gaidris son epouse, firmin Gaidris, magdelaine Gaidris, jean Gaidris, Monique Gaidris . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 [Translation: List of the Neutral Acadians who are at Portabaco. In Maryland 7 July 1763] On 4 February 1768 Anne Dupuis, widow Guédry (age 35), and her five children Fermin (age 16), Magdalena (age 14), Monica (age 6), Isabel (age 3) and Jean-Baptiste (age 2) disembarked from the ship Jane in New Orleans, LA.4,5 They had departed the North Potomac River (Port Tobacco, MD) along with 144 other Acadians on 17 December 1767. The Jane was a plantation-built, seventy-five ton vessel commanded by Captain Richard Ryder with a crew of seven. Captain Ryder received his permit to sail to New Orleans at Patuxent, MD on 2 March 1767.6,7 Arriving on the Jane with Anne Dupuis and her children were Pierre Guédry (called Pedro Lledri on the manifest and Pedro Lledre on the list of settlers), his wife Margarita, one child Maria and an orphan Olivier Baven (Boutin). Also sailing on the Jane were Joseph Guédry (called Joseph Landri on the manifest and the list of settlers), his wife Magdalena, three children Joseph, Simon and Magdalena and an orphan Margarita Baven (Boutin).4,5 Pierre Guédry and Joseph Guédry were brothers and the sons of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert Between March 1765 and February 1768 Jean-Baptiste Guédry died – probably near Port Tobacco, MD. Little of his early life is known although from the ages of his wife and children he likely was born in Acadia about 1731 and married Anne Magdeleine Dupuis in Acadia about 1750. Shortly after arriving in New Orleans, Anne Magdeleine Dupuis and her children along with Pierre Guédry and his family and Joseph Guédry with his family were forced by Spanish officials to settle far up the Mississippi River at Fort San Luis de Natchez (near present-day Vidalia, LA). This swampy, insect-infested area was too far from New Orleans by river for profitable commerce and a great distance from other Acadian communities. A large number of the Acadians at Fort San Luis de Natchez died within the first eighteen months of settlement including Pierre Guédry’s wife and two young children and probably Joseph Guédry’s wife and three children. In December 1769 the Spanish relented and let the Acadians move downriver – close to other Acadian communities.4,5,8 Anne Magdeleine Dupuis and her children along with Pierre Guédry and his new wife Claire Babin and Joseph Guédry immediately left Fort San Luis de Natchez and resettled in Ascension Parish, LA. On 1 August 1770 they were living near each other on the left bank (east side) of the Mississippi River in Ascension Parish near the Isle aux Marais. With Anne Magdeleine Dupuis (widow Guédry, age 40) were her children Firmin (age 18), Magdeleine (age 16), Jean (age 8) and Monique (age 6). Isabel Guédry apparently died at Fort San Luis de Natchez. Pierre Guédry (age 26) was with his second wife Claire Babin (age 26) and their new son Pierre (age 5 months). Also censused near the households of Anne Magdeleine Dupuis and of Pierre Guédry was Joseph Guédry (age 30) living alone – apparently having lost his entire family at Fort San Luis de Natchez.9,10,11 In Ascension Parish on 24 May 1773 Joseph Guédry, son of Augustin Guédry and Anne (Jeanne) Hébert of L’Assomption Parish in Pisiguit, Acadia, married Anne Monique Dupuis, daughter of Jean Dupuis and Anne Braud. Witnesses to their marriage were Joseph Buten (Boutin) and Joseph Dupuis.12,13 This was the second marriage for Joseph Guédry. At St. Joseph’s Catholic Church in Philadelphia, PA on 22 January 1761 he married Magdelen Melancon.14,15,16 Joseph Guédry and Magdalen Melançon had three children: Joseph (b. ca.. 1755), Simon (b. ca. 1763) and Magdalena (b. ca.. 1765).4,5 Magdalen Melançon and her three children apparently died at Fort San Luis de Natchez during their brief residence there in 1768-1769.9,10 Anne Magdeleine Dupuis and her family remained in Ascension Parish as did Joseph Guédry. On 23 April 1777 Anne Dupuis (widow Guédry, age 44) was living with her sons Firmin Guédry (age 27) and Jean Guédry (age 17) and her daughter Marie (Monique) Guédry (age 15) on the east side of Mississippi River near the Isle aux Marais. Firmin Guédry was listed as the head of the household. Joseph Guédry (age 45) and his wife Marie (Anne Monique) Dupuis (age 33) were living next to Anne Dupuis and her family.17,18 By 1777 Pierre Guédry had moved his growing family to the Opelousas region.19,20 In December 1782 Joseph Guédry died. Shortly after is death on 10 December 1782 his widow Anne Monique Dupuis requested an inventory of the estate. Acadian Settlement at San Luis de Natchez, circa 1768 He lived in the community L’Anse de L’Isle aux Marais and present at the inventory were: Jean Guédry, nephew of the deceased, Pierre Dupuis, Pierre Landry, Pierre Brasseux, Joseph Braud, relatives, friends and neighbors of the deceased. The appraisers were Joseph Landry and Simon Richard. The property of Joseph Guédry adjoined that of Firmin Guédry, son of Ann Magdeleine Dupuis, the widow of Jean-Baptiste Guédry.21,22 As stated in his marriage certificate to Anne Monique Dupuis, Joseph Guédry was the son of Augustin Guédry and Anne Hébert.12,13 One of the persons present at the inventory of Joseph Guédry’s estate was Jean Guédry, nephew of the deceased. Based on census and sacramental records, in 1782 in Louisiana there were only two known Jean Guédry’s: Jean-Baptiste Guédry, the son of the late Jean-Baptiste Guédry and Anne Magdeleine Dupuis, who was born about 1761 and Jean-Baptiste Guédry, son of Pierre Guédry and Claire Babin, who was born 9 July 1776. It is improbable that a six-year old child would be mentioned as attending an estate inventory; therefore, the son of Pierre Guédry and Claire Babin is not the Jean Guédry mentioned in the above estate inventory. The Jean Guédry mentioned must be the son of the late Jean-Baptiste Guédry and Anne Magdeleine Dupuis. Jean Guédry could only be the nephew of Joseph Guédry if his father and Joseph Guédry were brothers or if his mother Anne Magdeleine Dupuis and Joseph Guidry’s wife Anne Monique Dupuis were sisters. As stated in her marriage certificate, Ann Monique Dupuis, widow of Joseph Guédry, was the daughter of Jean Dupuis and Anne Braud.12,13 Although we do not know with certainty the parents of Anne Magdeleine Dupuis, the available records do provide some clues. From Louisiana census records Anne Magdeleine Dupuis was born ca. 1730-1733. Her eldest child Firmin Guédry was born about 1750-1752; therefore, she married Jean-Baptiste Guédry about 1750. Furthermore, in 1763 she and her husband Jean-Baptiste Guédry were at Port Tobacco, MD with their children. A review of Dupuis men who had daughters named Anne and/or Magdeleine born in the 1720 - 1740 timeframe yielded several potential sets of parents for Anne Magdeleine Dupuis.23 They are: 1) Charles Dupuis and Madeleine Trahan – daughter Madeline was born in 1739; however, this family was exiled to Southampton, England and Madeleine Dupuis married Eustache Daigle there in 1759. 2) Antoine Dupuis and Marie-Joseph Dugas – daughter Madeleine was born in 1722; she married Joseph Hébert about 1740. Another daughter Anne-Marie was born in 1731; however, she married Michel Boudrot about 1751. 3) Germain Dupuis and Marie Granger – daughter Anne was born in 1738; however, she married Dominique Thibodeau. Another daughter Marie Madeleine was born in 1741; however, she wed Amand Breau about 1763. 4) Joseph Dupuis and Elizabeth LeBlanc – daughter Marie Magdeleine was born on 20 May 1737.24,25Nothing futher could be found of her life, but she does not have the name Anne. 5) Charles Dupuis and Elizabeth LeBlanc – daughter Anne was born on 7 May 1733.26,27 This family wasexiled to Maryland. Charles Dupuis and Elizabeth LeBlanc with two sons Jean-Baptiste and Joseph were at Annapolis, MD in 1763.28,29,30 Although to date no definitive record confirming the parents of Anne Magdeleine Dupuis has been located, it appears very probable that they were Charles Dupuis and Elizabeth LeBlanc. More importantly for this study, almost certainly they were not Jean Dupuis and Anne Braud, the parents of Anne Monique Dupuis, as they had only two daughters: Marie (born ca. 1739) and Monique (born ca. 1744).31 The relationship of Joseph Guédry and Jean Guédry, therefore, was because Jean Guédry’s father was the brother of Joseph Guédry. Since the parents of Joseph Guédry were Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert, the parents of Jean-Baptiste Guédry, father of Jean Guédry and husband of Anne Magdeleine Dupuis, also were Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert. Besides the evidence discussed above, collateral evidence supporting this conclusion stems from Anne Magdeleine Dupuis’ close association with Joseph Guédry and Pierre Guédry, both sons of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert . They were, in fact, her brothers-in-law and certainly provided much needed support to her. From Port Tobacco, MD Anne Magdeleine Dupuis sailed to New Orleans, LA on the Jane with Pierre Guédry and Joseph Guédry, sons of Augustin Guédry and Jeanne Hébert. She settled near both of them at Fort San Luis de Natchez in 1768 and at L’Anse de L’Isle aux Marais in Ascension Parish, LA in 1770. In 1777 and 1782 she still was living near Joseph Guédry at L’Anse de L’Isle aux Marais. Furthermore, Charles Dupuis and Elizabeth LeBlanc were exiled to Maryland and were at Annapolis, MD in 1763 – not far from Anne Magdeleine Dupuis and Jean Baptiste Guédry at Port Tobacco, MD. REFERENCES 1. Guidry, Daniel C. “Chuck” and Westerman, Audrey; “Guédry – Guidry – Gaidry”, Terrebonne Life Lines (Terrebonne Genealogical Society; Houma, LA), Volume 13, No. 4 (Winter 1994), pp. 62-63. 2. Archives Nationales France, Archives du Ministère des Affaires étrangères, Correspondance politique, Angleterre (Paris, France), volume 450, folio 442. “Etat des gens neutrals acadiens qui sont a portabaco. En Maryland 7 juillet 1763” [Transcription: National Archives of Canada (Ottawa, Canada), MG 5, Volume 450, Folio 442.] 3. Rieder, Milton P. Jr. and Rieder, Norma Gaudet; The Acadian Exiles in the American Colonies, 1755-1768 (Milton P. Rieder, Jr. and Norma Gaudet Rieder; Metairie, LA; 1977), p. 33. 4. Archivo General de Indias “Audiencia de Santa Domingo (A.D.S.)” (Seville, Spain), Legajo 2585, Folios 577-604. “Acadians Families Who Came to Louisiana and Were Going to Settle at San Luis de Natchez in the Year 1768” and “Acadians Who Were Granted Land at San Luis de Natchez, 1768” [Microfilm available at the Center for Louisiana Studies; University of Louisiana at Lafayette; Lafayette, LA]. 5. Voorhies, Jacqueline K.; Some Late Eighteenth-Century Louisianians – Census Records of the Colony, 1758-1796 (The USL History Series, University of Southwestern Louisiana; Lafayette, LA, 1973), pp. 435-436, 438. 6. Archivo General de Indias “Papeles Procedentes de Cuba (P.P.C.)” (Seville, Spain), Legajo 187-A-1 (2 Marzo 1767). “Passport for the Jane, 2 March 1767” [Microfilm available at the Center for Louisiana Studies; University of Louisiana at Lafayette; Lafayette, LA]. 7. Voorhies, Jacqueline K.; Ibid., p. 200. 8. Brasseaux, Carl A.; The Founding of New Acadia – The Beginnings of Acadian Life in Louisiana, 1765-1803 (Louisiana State University Press; Baton Rouge, LA; 1987), pp. 78-89. 9. Archivo General de Indias “Papeles Procedentes de Cuba (P.P.C.)” (Seville, Spain), Legajo 188-A-1, Folios 454-466. “Etat, du habitants acadiens de la paroisse de L’assession a Commence Sur La Rive Droite du fleuve, chez jean jeansonne, autre fois chez La Veuve Lachance et finis a La pointe D’Enhaute Lisle aux marais. Année 1770” [Microfilm available at the Center for Louisiana Studies; University of Louisiana at Lafayette; Lafayette, LA]. 10. Voorhies, Jacqueline K.; Ibid., p. 277. 11. Robichaux, Jr., Albert J.; Colonial Settlers Along Bayou Lafourche – Louisiana Census Records, 1770-1798 (Albert J. Robichaux, jr.; Harvey, LA; 1974), p. 7. 12. Ascension Catholic Church; Donaldsonville, Ascension Parish, LA; Volume 1 page 124 of the Marriage Register (24 May 1773). 13. Pollard, Nora Lee Clouatre; Diocese of Baton Rouge Catholic Church Records (Diocese of Baton Rouge; Baton Rouge, LA; 1978-2008), v. 2 pp. 272, 340. 14. St. Joseph’s Catholic Church; Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, PA; Marriages for the Year 1761 (Simon Yetry and Magdalen Melançon). 15. Furey, Francis T.; “Father Farmer’s Marriage Register, 1758-1786. Preserved at St. Joseph’s Church, Philad’a.”, Records of the American Catholic Historical Society of Philadelphia (American Catholic Historical Society of Philadelphia; Philadelphia, PA; 1889), v. II (1886-1888) p. 279. 16. O’Keefe, Barbara Brady; “Father Farmer’s Marriage Registers, 1758-1786. St. Joseph’s Church, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania”, Acadian-home.org website (Viewed 26 Jan 2006), p. 23 of 93. http://www.acadian-home.org/acadian-marriages-Philadelphia.html 17. Archivo General de Indias “Papeles Procedentes de Cuba (P.P.C.)” (Seville, Spain), Legajo 190. “General Census of the Inhabitants of the District of the Parish of Ascension of Lafourche des Chetimachas, which begins on the right bank of the river beginning below at Basil Prejean and ending above at the tip of the Isle aux Marais; and on the left bank, at Sieur Maruice Canoee formerly of the village of the Houmas and ending above at Francois Babin opposite the tip of the above mentioned isle, comprising five leagues, 1777” [Microfilm available at the Center for Louisiana Studies; University of Louisiana at Lafayette; Lafayette, LA]. 18. Robichaux, Jr., Albert J.; Ibid., p. 18. 19. Archivo General de Indias “Papeles Procedentes de Cuba (P.P.C.)” (Seville, Spain), Legajo 2358. “Opelousas General Census, May 4, 1777” [Microfilm available at the Center for Louisiana Studies; University of Louisiana at Lafayette; Lafayette, LA]. 20. Voorhies, Jacqueline K.; Ibid., p. 312. 21. Ascension Parish Courthouse; Donaldsonville, Ascension Parish, LA; Original Acts v. 15 “Invent & Sales”, Judice N-1 “B” pp. 523-529. 22. Behrman, Eileen Larré; Ascension Parish, Louisiana Civil Records 1770-1804 (Eileen L. Behrman; Conroe, TX; 1986), pp. 26-27. 23. Arsenault, Bona; Histoire et Généalogie des Acadiens (Les Éditions Leméac Inc.; Ottawa, Canada; 1978), pp. 1112, 1129, 1145, 1162-1165, 1187. 24. St. Charles-aux-Mines Catholic Church, Grand-Pré, Acadie (Currently maintained at the Diocese of Baton Rouge; Department of the Archives; Baton Rouge, LA); St. Gabriel Catholic Church Register, v. 2 p. 162. 25. Pollard, Nora Lee Clouatre; Ibid., v. 1 p. 46; v. 1a (Revised) p. 70. 26. St. Charles-aux-Mines Catholic Church, Grand-Pré, Acadie (Currently maintained at the Diocese of Baton Rouge; Department of the Archives; Baton Rouge, LA); St. Gabriel Catholic Church Register, v. 2 p. 125. 27. Pollard, Nora Lee Clouatre; Ibid., v. 1 p. 44; v. 1a (Revised) p. 67. 28. Archives Nationales France, Archives du Ministère des Affaires étrangères, Correspondance politique, Angleterre (Paris, France), volume 450, folio 443. “Recencement des habitants Neutre de L’accadie détenus à Annapolis En Maryland. 7 juillet 1763” [Transcription: National Archives of Canada (Ottawa, Canada), MG 5, Volume 450, Folio 443.] 29. Jehn, Janet; Acadian Exiles in the Colonies (Janet Jehn; Covington, KY; 1977), p. 138. 30. Rieder, Milton P. Jr. and Rieder, Norma Gaudet; Ibid.; p. 27. 31. Voorhies, Jacqueline K.; Ibid., p. 435. On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: KATheriot@aol.com To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Oct 24, 2010 12:50 am Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Guedry Claude m1 Anne Lejeune m2 1762 Anne Moyse Marty, I find your arguments about the birth year and possible parents of Claude GUEDRY very persuasive, and have a few details to add to your synopsis. The birth dates and baptisms of the three youngest boys of Claude Guedry & Anne Lejeune (dit Briard) are in the Acadian records published in: Hebert, Tim, trans. & ed., Acadian Church Records, Port LaJoye, Ile St. Jean, 1749-1758 (Houma, LA: Acadian-Cajun Genealogy & History, 2000). p. 38: Pierre Janvier GUIDRY, born 18 Jul 1752, baptized 20 Aug 1752. Sponsors: Joseph LUCOS & Josephe BOUDROT. p. 56: Charles Olivier GUEDRY, born 29 Oct 1754, baptized 12 Feb 1755. Sponsors: Pierre HENRY & Margeritte BENOIST. p. 85: Claude Augustin GUEDRY, son of Claude GUEDRY & Anne LEJEUNE, born 13 May 1758, baptized 13 May 1758. Sponsors: Jean Baptiste BENOIST & Anne BOURG. Also, another child is listed for the family of Augustin GUEDRY & Jeanne HEBERT, in an article by Ronnie-Gilles LeBlanc, "Pigiguit: l'impact du Grand Dérangement sur une communauté de l'ancienne Acadie," in Du Grand Dérangement à la Déportation: Nouvelles perspectives historiques (Moncton, NB: Chaire d'études acadiennes, 2005), p. 244. He lists Jean Baptiste GUEDRY (born about 1728) who married Anne DUPUIS as their son. I think this additional child makes it even more likely that Claude was the son of Paul GUEDRY & Anne-Marie MIUS d'AZY. By the way, in his draft version of the new DGFA-2, Stephen White has another child in Paul's family--Marie Josephe (born about 1724) who married Charles BOUTIN. And finally, there is a GUIDRY DNA project at Family Tree DNA which has only one member at the moment. Perhaps with many submitters of male Y-DNA with this surname, there will be a slight mutation in some lines which will distinguish them. Since these are carried forward into each subsequent generation, DNA testing can differentiate various descendancies. Hope this helps. Karen Theriot Reader
Hi all, I'm not following the Guidry discussion extremely closely (not a direct line of mine, though it sounds interesting), but this statement caught my eye. Cecil, could you explain, please, the general concept (you don't have to get into the Guidry specifics of it for me)? <snip> "Many census takers over time try to make couples nearly the same age which would explain the ages reported in France." I'm not sure I follow exactly what you mean--the same census taker in the same place for many censuses? Or (which I think is probably the idea) many different census takers have been found to do this on many different occasions in Acadian &/or French or other censuses? If so, why? Laziness &/or expediency? Cultural taboos about age differences between man & wife? I know people didn't keep as close track of their ages in previous times, and that census takers or family members (or even neighbors) might estimate ages of others, and therefore be in error, but this is (if I'm understanding what you meant) a new concept to me, probably because I haven't examined Acadian censuses for my ancestors very closely (have concentrated on b/m/d & exile migration so far) & so I haven't noticed this as of yet, at least not in U.S. censuses. Thanks for clarifying (& for your patience :) ), Liz ________________________________ From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 5:20:32 AM Subject: [ACADIAN] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Karen I see the descrepancies about the age of Claude Guédry, but I see nothing of what you said referring to Claude's parentage. We have no information to lead us in the correct direction as to the correct age of Claude. The age found in the Laroque census could very well be correct. We notice that Anne is reported to be a Theriot (an obvious copy of the wife in the previous entry). She is also shown as being 38a which could be a copy of Claude's age. But we know that Anne Lejeune was probably 10 yrs. younger. Many census takers over time try to make couples nearly the same age which would explain the ages reported in France. Who has a register copy for Claude's second marriage? Mr. White refers to a dispensation for affinity for this marriage. Were the parents of Claude not listed? Another line of thought begins with the fact that Anne Lejeune's father Germaine took as his second wife Marie Guédry (a daughter of Jean Baptiste hung in Boston and Madeline Mius). This shows a very familial association. I honestly cannot make a conclusion as to who the parents of Claude were. But there is absolutely nothing to show he was from a different brother. .....and his age reported in France could also be correct and he be the son of JB-Madeleine Mius!!! JB was hung in 1726 and Madeleine was barely into her 30's. Many families have a child 10 yrs. after the previous child --- also there could have been many more children in the middle --- they were lost in history or died at a very young age!!! C > From: KATheriot@aol.com > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:50:53 -0400 > To: acadian@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Guedry Claude m1 Anne Lejeune m2 1762 Anne Moyse > > Marty, > > I find your arguments about the birth year and possible parents of Claude > GUEDRY very persuasive, and have a few details to add to your synopsis. > > The birth dates and baptisms of the three youngest boys of Claude Guedry & > Anne Lejeune (dit Briard) are in the Acadian records published in: > Hebert, Tim, trans. & ed., Acadian Church Records, Port LaJoye, Ile St. > Jean, 1749-1758 (Houma, LA: Acadian-Cajun Genealogy & History, 2000). > > p. 38: Pierre Janvier GUIDRY, born 18 Jul 1752, baptized 20 Aug 1752. > Sponsors: Joseph LUCOS & Josephe BOUDROT. > > p. 56: Charles Olivier GUEDRY, born 29 Oct 1754, baptized 12 Feb 1755. > Sponsors: Pierre HENRY & Margeritte BENOIST. > > p. 85: Claude Augustin GUEDRY, son of Claude GUEDRY & Anne LEJEUNE, born > 13 May 1758, baptized 13 May 1758. Sponsors: Jean Baptiste BENOIST & Anne > BOURG. > > Also, another child is listed for the family of Augustin GUEDRY & Jeanne > HEBERT, in an article by Ronnie-Gilles LeBlanc, "Pigiguit: l'impact du Grand > Dérangement sur une communauté de l'ancienne Acadie," in Du Grand > Dérangement à la Déportation: Nouvelles perspectives historiques (Moncton, NB: > Chaire d'études acadiennes, 2005), p. 244. He lists Jean Baptiste GUEDRY (born > about 1728) who married Anne DUPUIS as their son. I think this additional > child makes it even more likely that Claude was the son of Paul GUEDRY & > Anne-Marie MIUS d'AZY. > > By the way, in his draft version of the new DGFA-2, Stephen White has > another child in Paul's family--Marie Josephe (born about 1724) who married > Charles BOUTIN. > > And finally, there is a GUIDRY DNA project at Family Tree DNA which has > only one member at the moment. Perhaps with many submitters of male Y-DNA > with this surname, there will be a slight mutation in some lines which will > distinguish them. Since these are carried forward into each subsequent > generation, DNA testing can differentiate various descendancies. > > Hope this helps. > > Karen Theriot Reader > > > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. 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The Ancestry spam blocker is acting up again. & again. Please Bcc me for a while with your posts & I will force tghem through. Thanks C Paul Le B lÁscension Louisiane --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: cvanduzee@msn.com Karen I see the descrepancies about the age of Claude Guédry, but I see nothing of what you said referring to Claude's parentage. We have no information to lead us in the correct direction as to the correct age of Claude. The age found in the Laroque census could very well be correct. We notice that Anne is reported to be a Theriot (an obvious copy of the wife in the previous entry). She is also shown as being 38a which could be a copy of Claude's age. But we know that Anne Lejeune was probably 10 yrs. younger. Many census takers over time try to make couples nearly the same age which would explain the ages reported in France. Who has a register copy for Claude's second marriage? Mr. White refers to a dispensation for affinity for this marriage. Were the parents of Claude not listed? Another line of thought begins with the fact that Anne Lejeune's father Germaine took as his second wife Marie Guédry (a daughter of Jean Baptiste hung in Boston and Madeline Mius). This shows a very familial association. I honestly cannot make a conclusion as to who the parents of Claude were. But there is absolutely nothing to show he was from a different brother. .....and his age reported in France could also be correct and he be the son of JB-Madeleine Mius!!! JB was hung in 1726 and Madeleine was barely into her 30's. Many families have a child 10 yrs. after the previous child --- also there could have been many more children in the middle --- they were lost in history or died at a very young age!!! C =
Karen I see the descrepancies about the age of Claude Guédry, but I see nothing of what you said referring to Claude's parentage. We have no information to lead us in the correct direction as to the correct age of Claude. The age found in the Laroque census could very well be correct. We notice that Anne is reported to be a Theriot (an obvious copy of the wife in the previous entry). She is also shown as being 38a which could be a copy of Claude's age. But we know that Anne Lejeune was probably 10 yrs. younger. Many census takers over time try to make couples nearly the same age which would explain the ages reported in France. Who has a register copy for Claude's second marriage? Mr. White refers to a dispensation for affinity for this marriage. Were the parents of Claude not listed? Another line of thought begins with the fact that Anne Lejeune's father Germaine took as his second wife Marie Guédry (a daughter of Jean Baptiste hung in Boston and Madeline Mius). This shows a very familial association. I honestly cannot make a conclusion as to who the parents of Claude were. But there is absolutely nothing to show he was from a different brother. .....and his age reported in France could also be correct and he be the son of JB-Madeleine Mius!!! JB was hung in 1726 and Madeleine was barely into her 30's. Many families have a child 10 yrs. after the previous child --- also there could have been many more children in the middle --- they were lost in history or died at a very young age!!! C > From: KATheriot@aol.com > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:50:53 -0400 > To: acadian@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Guedry Claude m1 Anne Lejeune m2 1762 Anne Moyse > > Marty, > > I find your arguments about the birth year and possible parents of Claude > GUEDRY very persuasive, and have a few details to add to your synopsis. > > The birth dates and baptisms of the three youngest boys of Claude Guedry & > Anne Lejeune (dit Briard) are in the Acadian records published in: > Hebert, Tim, trans. & ed., Acadian Church Records, Port LaJoye, Ile St. > Jean, 1749-1758 (Houma, LA: Acadian-Cajun Genealogy & History, 2000). > > p. 38: Pierre Janvier GUIDRY, born 18 Jul 1752, baptized 20 Aug 1752. > Sponsors: Joseph LUCOS & Josephe BOUDROT. > > p. 56: Charles Olivier GUEDRY, born 29 Oct 1754, baptized 12 Feb 1755. > Sponsors: Pierre HENRY & Margeritte BENOIST. > > p. 85: Claude Augustin GUEDRY, son of Claude GUEDRY & Anne LEJEUNE, born > 13 May 1758, baptized 13 May 1758. Sponsors: Jean Baptiste BENOIST & Anne > BOURG. > > Also, another child is listed for the family of Augustin GUEDRY & Jeanne > HEBERT, in an article by Ronnie-Gilles LeBlanc, "Pigiguit: l'impact du Grand > Dérangement sur une communauté de l'ancienne Acadie," in Du Grand > Dérangement à la Déportation: Nouvelles perspectives historiques (Moncton, NB: > Chaire d'études acadiennes, 2005), p. 244. He lists Jean Baptiste GUEDRY (born > about 1728) who married Anne DUPUIS as their son. I think this additional > child makes it even more likely that Claude was the son of Paul GUEDRY & > Anne-Marie MIUS d'AZY. > > By the way, in his draft version of the new DGFA-2, Stephen White has > another child in Paul's family--Marie Josephe (born about 1724) who married > Charles BOUTIN. > > And finally, there is a GUIDRY DNA project at Family Tree DNA which has > only one member at the moment. Perhaps with many submitters of male Y-DNA > with this surname, there will be a slight mutation in some lines which will > distinguish them. Since these are carried forward into each subsequent > generation, DNA testing can differentiate various descendancies. > > Hope this helps. > > Karen Theriot Reader > > > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =