Gary I have a different set of parents for Rene who marries Anne Gaudin (d/o Bonaventue Godin & Theotiste Thibodeau) I have him as the son of Jean-Gregory (Joseph & Agnes Thibodeau) who married Anne LeBlanc ((32) Rene Le Blanc (a Mirimachi) & (7g) Anne Theriot) Jean-Gregorie dies while a prisoner The children were split among the relatives. Anne Le Blanc remaries to Pierre-Benajmine Bourgeois & dies. Some of the children make it to Louisiane & some stay in what would become Canada. See my Francois Broussard to Maria Breau for one of the branches that stayed. This is what I have. Anyone agree/disagree? Paul -----Original Message----- From: Gary Darnsteadt Was able to return to Louisiana over the holidays and spent a little time researching in St. Martinville. Unless I've made an error, my line is as follows: 1) Francois dit Beausoleil Broussard & Catherine Richard 2) Alexandre dit Beausoleil Broussard & Marguerite Thibodeau 3) Joseph Gregoire "Petite Joe" Broussard & Anastasie LeBlanc 4) Rene Broussard & Marie Anne Barbe Godin 5) Joseph Rene Broussard & Constance LeBlanc 6) Marcellite Urasie Broussard & Maximilien Steven 7) Amelia Stevens & Louis Terville Sonnier 8) Marcelite "Leet" Sonnier & John Adam Hoffpauir 9) Louis L Hoffpauir & Mattie Gossett 10) Ella Mae Hoffpauir & Arthur L Darnsteadt, Jr. 11) Me Gary D

Lona I have 3 more lines for Rocky All from Joseph & Alexandre's sister Marie & her daughter Anne-Marie (1c) Marie Broussard (12b) Anne-Marie Doucet Two from Anne-Marie daughter Pelangie Landry (you have her) One from Anne-Marie daughter Marie Rose Landry (I do not know if you have her) More Later if you need it Paul -----Original Message----- From: Lona Boudreaux Hi All, Back on the list and I've learned in time to add Rocky's connections to the BROUSSARD family. >From his mother: Francois BROUSSARD and Louise BARBARIN Jean Francois BROUSSARD and Catherine RICHARD Joseph dit Beausoleil BROUSSARD and Agnes THIBODEAUX Francois BROUSSARD and Pelagie LANDRY Francois Isidore BROUSSARD and Adelaide PREJEAN Edouard Isidore BROUSSARD and Marie Aspasie BROUSSARD* Hypolite Telesphore BROUSSARD and Malvina Celestine OLIVIER Galbert BROUSSARD and Marie Ledia BEGNAUD Isabelle Anne BROUSSARD and Earl Francis BOUDREAUX (Rocky's parents) Francois BROUSSARD and Louise BARBARIN Jean Francois BROUSSARD and Catherine RICHARD Joseph dit Beausoleil BROUSSARD and Agnes THIBODEAUX Francois BROUSSARD and Pelagie LANDRY Olidon BROUSSARD and Marie Anne BERNARD Jean Olidon BROUSSARD and Victoire BABINEAUX *Marie Aspasie BROUSSARD and Edouard Isidore BROUSSARD Hypolite Telesphore BROUSSARD and Malvina Celestine OLIVIER Galbert BROUSSARD and Marie Ledia BEGNAUD Isabelle Anne BROUSSARD and Earl Francis BOUDREAUX (Rocky's parents) >From his father: Francois BROUSSARD and Louise BARBARIN Jean Francois BROUSSARD and Catherine RICHARD Alexandre BROUSSARD and Marguerite THIBODEAUX Pierre Zephirin BROUSSARD and Marguerite GUIDRY Olivier BROUSSARD and Marie Elmire BERNARD Marie Sidonia BROUSSARD and Joseph Aladin TAUZIN Henri TAUZIN and Adolphina GUIDRY Stella Maria TAUZIN and Robert James BOUDREAUX Earl Francis BOUDREAUX and Isabelle Anne BROUSSARD I think that is all but I've learned over the 40 years of research there could be others :). Lona Laughlin Boudreaux

Hi All, Back on the list and I've learned in time to add Rocky's connections to the BROUSSARD family. >From his mother: Francois BROUSSARD and Louise BARBARIN Jean Francois BROUSSARD and Catherine RICHARD Joseph dit Beausoleil BROUSSARD and Agnes THIBODEAUX Francois BROUSSARD and Pelagie LANDRY Francois Isidore BROUSSARD and Adelaide PREJEAN Edouard Isidore BROUSSARD and Marie Aspasie BROUSSARD* Hypolite Telesphore BROUSSARD and Malvina Celestine OLIVIER Galbert BROUSSARD and Marie Ledia BEGNAUD Isabelle Anne BROUSSARD and Earl Francis BOUDREAUX (Rocky's parents) Francois BROUSSARD and Louise BARBARIN Jean Francois BROUSSARD and Catherine RICHARD Joseph dit Beausoleil BROUSSARD and Agnes THIBODEAUX Francois BROUSSARD and Pelagie LANDRY Olidon BROUSSARD and Marie Anne BERNARD Jean Olidon BROUSSARD and Victoire BABINEAUX *Marie Aspasie BROUSSARD and Edouard Isidore BROUSSARD Hypolite Telesphore BROUSSARD and Malvina Celestine OLIVIER Galbert BROUSSARD and Marie Ledia BEGNAUD Isabelle Anne BROUSSARD and Earl Francis BOUDREAUX (Rocky's parents) >From his father: Francois BROUSSARD and Louise BARBARIN Jean Francois BROUSSARD and Catherine RICHARD Alexandre BROUSSARD and Marguerite THIBODEAUX Pierre Zephirin BROUSSARD and Marguerite GUIDRY Olivier BROUSSARD and Marie Elmire BERNARD Marie Sidonia BROUSSARD and Joseph Aladin TAUZIN Henri TAUZIN and Adolphina GUIDRY Stella Maria TAUZIN and Robert James BOUDREAUX Earl Francis BOUDREAUX and Isabelle Anne BROUSSARD I think that is all but I've learned over the 40 years of research there could be others :). Lona Laughlin Boudreaux

Cousins Our Holiday tradition/stories period was scheduled to end today. Let's run it through Sunday. Any holiday tradition your family has had, especially if it may go back to Acadie. Did anyone marry the King/Queen of a King Cake Party they gave as a (pre-) teen? ======================= Let's continue with our Broussard "share a line" through Sunday. We will start Melancons next week. I got some questions about some of the lines sharred. Were there two sons of Joseph or Alexandre that there was a question of their parents? Sunday I will do our how related for the Broussards. We have put three 3rd cousins together I am sure they will meet at Acadian Awakening in October. ======================== While this is going on we are still taking questions on other family members. Sometimes a fresh look or a new reference is what is needed to bring down a brickwall Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane

Marsha Slidell library has a copy. Carl Brasseaux's series of books that lists French People who arrived in Louisiana from about start of American Period to the 1850s. card catallogue below You will probably need to read all the "D" entries in vol 1. Sorry we had used it on St-Jean Baptise Parish list a few weeks ago so used short reference. Paul ============================ Home Page http://www.sttammany.lib.la.us/home_flash.html "card catalogue" http://catalog.sttammany.lib.la.us/Polaris/search/searchresults.aspx?ctx=1.1033.0.0.1&type=Keyword&term=foreign%20french&by=TI&sort=RELEVANCE&limit=TOM=*&query=&page=0 The "foreign French" : nineteenth-century French immigration into Louisiana / by Carl A. Brasseaux. Find other works by: Brasseaux, Carl A. Publisher, Date: Lafayette, La. : Center for Louisiana Studies, University of Southwestern Louisiana, c1990- Description: v. <1- > ; 29 cm. Format: Book Notes: Includes bibliographical references. Contents: v. 1. 1820-1839 -- v. 3. 1849-1852. Find other works about: French Americans -- Louisiana -- Genealogy. French Americans -- Louisiana -- History -- 19th century -- Sources. Louisiana -- Genealogy. Louisiana -- Emigration and immigration -- History -- 19th century -- Sources. France -- Emigration and immigration -- History -- 19th century -- Sources. ISBN: 0940984563 (v. 1) -----Original Message----- From: mladner <marshaladner@att.net> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 8:58 pm Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] What's in a name? was Terrebonne Census 1840 & 1830 Hi Paul, Thank you so much....I will forward your letter to my nephew who is in search of a "correct" spelling, prononunciation, etc. I am not familar with the 'Foreign French' book. Would that be on-line or in someone's collection? thanks again, Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul L LeBlanc" <pleblan@aim.com> To: <acadian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] What's in a name? was Terrebonne Census 1840 & 1830 > Marsha > > snip > correct last name/spelling > snip > > These are my own personal guidelines & comments. Any others comments > welcome! > > Standardized spelling? > > There is no such thing as a Correct Spelling. Our ancestors could have > a full life without being able to read & write. > > All names were written phonetically. Even English saw not standardized > until the start of the 20th century. > > I use the earliest spelling by a French speaker. It would usually be > the baptismal record. The name would be spelt as it was done where the > priest grew up. Who was the informant? The godfather or father? Often > the mother would not attend the ceremony. She would be home > recuperating & getting ready for the the celebration at home. This > usually works except when the godparents name is given and the parents > wanted a different one. > > The census taker is my last resort. They were often from elsewhere and > not French speakers. If the family was not home the census taker would > ask the neighbors. This is why names & ages were often guestimates. > > These are my personal "rules" what do others do? > > Paul > > PS In this case, I think I would check the "Foreign French" books to > see what the name was when they arrived in New Orleans > > -----Original Message----- > From: mladner > > Hi P > > Am trying to determine the correct last name/spelling of the > following head of household. I am finding it spelled many ways. I am > totally confused as to which parishes aree involved at this point. > > Anyhow.......Jean Bapt. Adolph Damien/Danion/Damion(HH) ? m > Marie > Benoit 1841 Thibodeaux Church. > > Jean Bapt. Adolph Damion b1819 s/o Vincent Danion & Victoire > Dugas who m in Plattenville in 1817 > Marie Benoit b1820, bt. Thibodeaux Church, d/o Joseph Benoit > & > Justine Thibodeaux. > > Jean B. Adolph Damion & Marie Benoit had a daughter born > 1845, bt. > Thibodeaux Ch. named > Edmire/Elmire Danien/Damien who m Jean Washington Bergeron in 1854, > Houma. > > The above daughter Edmire is the person whose family > supposedly > came from Isle de Pines. > > Hope this is not too confusing. > > Thanks, Marsha > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul L LeBlanc" > >> Marsha >> >> Thibodaux is now in Lafourche Parish Any idea when Lafourche interior >> split into LaFourche & Terrebonne. >> >> What first names & last names of heads of household are we looking > for? >> Best guess of year of birth? >> >> The 1830 & 1840 census only had the name of the head of household & >> counts in age groupings. >> >> Paul >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mladner <marshaladner@att.net> >> >> Needing help researching the Damien and Bergeron families in >> Terrebonne >> (Thibodeaux, La.) Does anyone have access to the census of 1830 or >> 1840? >> >> Thanks, Marsha > > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a > confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. 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Hi Paul, Thank you so much....I will forward your letter to my nephew who is in search of a "correct" spelling, prononunciation, etc. I am not familar with the 'Foreign French' book. Would that be on-line or in someone's collection? thanks again, Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul L LeBlanc" <pleblan@aim.com> To: <acadian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] What's in a name? was Terrebonne Census 1840 & 1830 > Marsha > > snip > correct last name/spelling > snip > > These are my own personal guidelines & comments. Any others comments > welcome! > > Standardized spelling? > > There is no such thing as a Correct Spelling. Our ancestors could have > a full life without being able to read & write. > > All names were written phonetically. Even English saw not standardized > until the start of the 20th century. > > I use the earliest spelling by a French speaker. It would usually be > the baptismal record. The name would be spelt as it was done where the > priest grew up. Who was the informant? The godfather or father? Often > the mother would not attend the ceremony. She would be home > recuperating & getting ready for the the celebration at home. This > usually works except when the godparents name is given and the parents > wanted a different one. > > The census taker is my last resort. They were often from elsewhere and > not French speakers. If the family was not home the census taker would > ask the neighbors. This is why names & ages were often guestimates. > > These are my personal "rules" what do others do? > > Paul > > PS In this case, I think I would check the "Foreign French" books to > see what the name was when they arrived in New Orleans > > -----Original Message----- > From: mladner > > Hi P > > Am trying to determine the correct last name/spelling of the > following head of household. I am finding it spelled many ways. I am > totally confused as to which parishes aree involved at this point. > > Anyhow.......Jean Bapt. Adolph Damien/Danion/Damion(HH) ? m > Marie > Benoit 1841 Thibodeaux Church. > > Jean Bapt. Adolph Damion b1819 s/o Vincent Danion & Victoire > Dugas who m in Plattenville in 1817 > Marie Benoit b1820, bt. Thibodeaux Church, d/o Joseph Benoit > & > Justine Thibodeaux. > > Jean B. Adolph Damion & Marie Benoit had a daughter born > 1845, bt. > Thibodeaux Ch. named > Edmire/Elmire Danien/Damien who m Jean Washington Bergeron in 1854, > Houma. > > The above daughter Edmire is the person whose family > supposedly > came from Isle de Pines. > > Hope this is not too confusing. > > Thanks, Marsha > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul L LeBlanc" > >> Marsha >> >> Thibodaux is now in Lafourche Parish Any idea when Lafourche interior >> split into LaFourche & Terrebonne. >> >> What first names & last names of heads of household are we looking > for? >> Best guess of year of birth? >> >> The 1830 & 1840 census only had the name of the head of household & >> counts in age groupings. >> >> Paul >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mladner <marshaladner@att.net> >> >> Needing help researching the Damien and Bergeron families in >> Terrebonne >> (Thibodeaux, La.) Does anyone have access to the census of 1830 or >> 1840? >> >> Thanks, Marsha > > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a > confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the > "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fr. John How interesting. It just didn't occur to me that the War played a role. Good grief, duh!! Now I'm wondering if one of the husband's of the witnesses was called into war as they are also ancestors. Does this family history search ever stop? Well, no.... Thanks a lot, Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fr John L" <owentagart@aol.com> To: <acadian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Bergeron-Ladner > > According to church law, only those marriages are valid which are > contracted before the pastor of the parish, the Bishop of the diocese, or > a priest delegated by either of them, and at least two witnesses. (1918 > Code of Canon Law) > > The same rule applied before the Code took effect. There has never been a > norm regarding the gender of the witnesses. In fact, at the wedding of > my parents, the witnesses were my father's brother and my mother's father. > The custom of having a "best man" and a "maid [or matron] of honor" is a > rather recent development, which may have begun in the 1940's, when a lot > of men between their 20s and their 40s were otherwise occupied in Europe > or in the Pacific. > > > Fr John L > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> > To: acadian <acadian@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 11:43 am > Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Bergeron-Ladner > > > Marsha > The date is what causes me to believe the info is correct. Wasn't it > ess than 30 days after Pearl Harbor? We had already been under > eneral mobilizing for several years. > The men were gone and it was better to have a family member sign as > itness rather than an unknown male. > Pere Jean - any church requirements about gender of witnesses? > Please send me a copy of the document & I will look. > You could contact the Archdiocese and get a fresh copy. Ask them to > erify the names. > ttp://www.archdiocese-no.org/archives/genealogy.php > You can also get a copy of the (civil) license from the secretary of > tate it may be different. > ttp://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/633/Default.aspx > Paul > -----Original Message----- > rom: mladner > > Am in need of some help with my Brgeron/Ladner line. Would someone > e so > ind as to do a look-up for me? > Edgar M. Ladner (Leon & Angeline Seal) m Anne Mae Bergeron > Robert O. & > ntoinette Marie Babin Dec. 31, 1941 at St. Theresa Church New Orleans, > a. > I am very confused as to who the witnesses were. According to > y copy > f the marriage record, the two witnesses were female. I have never > een this > efore. I wonder if this is a transcription error. Can someone do a > ook up > nd let me know who the witnesses were? > Thanks, Marsha > ------------------------------- > o check our Archive > ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------ > o subscribe to the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > essage. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" > nrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a > confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the > "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to church law, only those marriages are valid which are contracted before the pastor of the parish, the Bishop of the diocese, or a priest delegated by either of them, and at least two witnesses. (1918 Code of Canon Law) The same rule applied before the Code took effect. There has never been a norm regarding the gender of the witnesses. In fact, at the wedding of my parents, the witnesses were my father's brother and my mother's father. The custom of having a "best man" and a "maid [or matron] of honor" is a rather recent development, which may have begun in the 1940's, when a lot of men between their 20s and their 40s were otherwise occupied in Europe or in the Pacific. Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian <acadian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 11:43 am Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Bergeron-Ladner Marsha The date is what causes me to believe the info is correct. Wasn't it ess than 30 days after Pearl Harbor? We had already been under eneral mobilizing for several years. The men were gone and it was better to have a family member sign as itness rather than an unknown male. Pere Jean - any church requirements about gender of witnesses? Please send me a copy of the document & I will look. You could contact the Archdiocese and get a fresh copy. Ask them to erify the names. ttp://www.archdiocese-no.org/archives/genealogy.php You can also get a copy of the (civil) license from the secretary of tate it may be different. ttp://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/633/Default.aspx Paul -----Original Message----- rom: mladner Am in need of some help with my Brgeron/Ladner line. Would someone e so ind as to do a look-up for me? Edgar M. Ladner (Leon & Angeline Seal) m Anne Mae Bergeron Robert O. & ntoinette Marie Babin Dec. 31, 1941 at St. Theresa Church New Orleans, a. I am very confused as to who the witnesses were. According to y copy f the marriage record, the two witnesses were female. I have never een this efore. I wonder if this is a transcription error. Can someone do a ook up nd let me know who the witnesses were? Thanks, Marsha ------------------------------- o check our Archive ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------ o subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the essage. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" nrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Marsha The date is what causes me to believe the info is correct. Wasn't it less than 30 days after Pearl Harbor? We had already been under general mobilizing for several years. The men were gone and it was better to have a family member sign as witness rather than an unknown male. Pere Jean - any church requirements about gender of witnesses? Please send me a copy of the document & I will look. You could contact the Archdiocese and get a fresh copy. Ask them to verify the names. http://www.archdiocese-no.org/archives/genealogy.php You can also get a copy of the (civil) license from the secretary of state it may be different. http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/633/Default.aspx Paul -----Original Message----- From: mladner Am in need of some help with my Brgeron/Ladner line. Would someone be so kind as to do a look-up for me? Edgar M. Ladner (Leon & Angeline Seal) m Anne Mae Bergeron (Robert O. & Antoinette Marie Babin Dec. 31, 1941 at St. Theresa Church New Orleans, La. I am very confused as to who the witnesses were. According to my copy of the marriage record, the two witnesses were female. I have never seen this before. I wonder if this is a transcription error. Can someone do a look up and let me know who the witnesses were? Thanks, Marsha

Marsha snip correct last name/spelling snip These are my own personal guidelines & comments. Any others comments welcome! Standardized spelling? There is no such thing as a Correct Spelling. Our ancestors could have a full life without being able to read & write. All names were written phonetically. Even English saw not standardized until the start of the 20th century. I use the earliest spelling by a French speaker. It would usually be the baptismal record. The name would be spelt as it was done where the priest grew up. Who was the informant? The godfather or father? Often the mother would not attend the ceremony. She would be home recuperating & getting ready for the the celebration at home. This usually works except when the godparents name is given and the parents wanted a different one. The census taker is my last resort. They were often from elsewhere and not French speakers. If the family was not home the census taker would ask the neighbors. This is why names & ages were often guestimates. These are my personal "rules" what do others do? Paul PS In this case, I think I would check the "Foreign French" books to see what the name was when they arrived in New Orleans -----Original Message----- From: mladner Hi P Am trying to determine the correct last name/spelling of the following head of household. I am finding it spelled many ways. I am totally confused as to which parishes aree involved at this point. Anyhow.......Jean Bapt. Adolph Damien/Danion/Damion(HH) ? m Marie Benoit 1841 Thibodeaux Church. Jean Bapt. Adolph Damion b1819 s/o Vincent Danion & Victoire Dugas who m in Plattenville in 1817 Marie Benoit b1820, bt. Thibodeaux Church, d/o Joseph Benoit & Justine Thibodeaux. Jean B. Adolph Damion & Marie Benoit had a daughter born 1845, bt. Thibodeaux Ch. named Edmire/Elmire Danien/Damien who m Jean Washington Bergeron in 1854, Houma. The above daughter Edmire is the person whose family supposedly came from Isle de Pines. Hope this is not too confusing. Thanks, Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul L LeBlanc" > Marsha > > Thibodaux is now in Lafourche Parish Any idea when Lafourche interior > split into LaFourche & Terrebonne. > > What first names & last names of heads of household are we looking for? > Best guess of year of birth? > > The 1830 & 1840 census only had the name of the head of household & > counts in age groupings. > > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mladner <marshaladner@att.net> > > Needing help researching the Damien and Bergeron families in > Terrebonne > (Thibodeaux, La.) Does anyone have access to the census of 1830 or > 1840? > > Thanks, Marsha

Paul, Thank you Paul. Don't know why it didn't dawn on me regarding the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Edgar entered the Army on January 9, 1942 and was d/c Aug. 1945. He served in Europe. Will send you a copy of the marriage certificate separately. Thanks, Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul L LeBlanc" <pleblan@aim.com> To: <acadian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Bergeron-Ladner > Marsha > > The date is what causes me to believe the info is correct. Wasn't it > less than 30 days after Pearl Harbor? We had already been under > general mobilizing for several years. > > The men were gone and it was better to have a family member sign as > witness rather than an unknown male. > > Pere Jean - any church requirements about gender of witnesses? > > Please send me a copy of the document & I will look. > > You could contact the Archdiocese and get a fresh copy. Ask them to > verify the names. > http://www.archdiocese-no.org/archives/genealogy.php > > You can also get a copy of the (civil) license from the secretary of > state it may be different. > http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/633/Default.aspx > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: mladner > > > Am in need of some help with my Brgeron/Ladner line. Would someone > be so > kind as to do a look-up for me? > > Edgar M. Ladner (Leon & Angeline Seal) m Anne Mae Bergeron > (Robert O. & > Antoinette Marie Babin Dec. 31, 1941 at St. Theresa Church New Orleans, > La. > > I am very confused as to who the witnesses were. According to > my copy > of the marriage record, the two witnesses were female. I have never > seen this > before. I wonder if this is a transcription error. Can someone do a > look up > and let me know who the witnesses were? > > Thanks, Marsha > > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a > confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the > "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry I do not have a dispensation book for that period I was thinking about the Great Grandparents date. More likely a civil marriage. Does anyone have hunting for bear for this period & general area. It is not in my WBR marriage books but is in the ancestry online database in WBR. Who knows? > Louisiana Marriages, 1718-1925 > about Isidore Lejeune > Name: Isidore Lejeune > Spouse: Olyupe Lejeune > Marriage Date: 1876 > Marriage Place: West Baton Rouge > Isidore -----Original Message----- From: Fr John L In 1975, in the dioceses of the United States, marriage between 1st cousins and 1st cousins once removed would not have been celebrated without proper dispensation; and these dispensations would not have been granted except in "special circumstances" (e.g. pregnancy).  The motive was to avoid, or at least minimize, the genetic disorders which are the consequence of inbreeding.  In 1875, these norms would have been applied stringently, in Massachusetts and, I presume, in Louisiana.   As to the question of validating a civil union between close relatives, I would think that, in 1875, that would be done only if once of the spouses was in immediate danger of death.    Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: Paul L LeBlanc André They were 1st cousins 1 generation removed. (A 2 to 3 Dispensation) There is NO New Orleans dispensation. (Anyone at Notre Dame to check the archive for correspondence?) The priest would (probably) NOT marry them without a dispensation. Local civil authorities, if they knew of the relationship, would not have either. Pere Jean - how easy would it be to get a dispensation? Would it have been easier to later present the family & get the union blessed? They would have to leave the parish (county) to marry. It is a little far (& early) but could they have gone down to Thibodaux to marry? Any other likely places for a civil marriage? Paul -----Original Message----- From: acvachon@videotron.ca Thanks for all Paul! Here the link for Isidore and Olympe: Isidore LEJEUNE parents: Séverin LEJEUNE + Séraphine AILLET Isidore LEJEUNE grandparents: Jean-Baptiste LEJEUNE + Marie-Geneviève DOUARON Olympe LEJEUNE parents: Alfred LEJEUNE + Elizabeth FORET Olympe LEJEUNE grandparents: Zénon LEJEUNE + Elizabeth MARTIN Olympe LEJEUNE great-grandparents: Jean-Baptiste LEJEUNE + Marie-Geneviève DOUARON Boring that we can't find the exact date for their wedding. Best regards, Andre ----- Message d'origine ----- De: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> > Interesting > > Looks like just a civil marriage. Was it a 2nd marriage > for one or > both? > > They are NOT in Cole & Cancienne (Iris Allain LeJeune Compiler) > West > Baton Parish Records 1807-1915 (courthouse records). This > implies they > went somewhere else to marry. How closely were they related. > Could not > wait for church dispensation? > > ================================ > > Louisiana Marriages, 1718-1925 > about Isidore Lejeune > Name: Isidore Lejeune > Spouse: Olyupe Lejeune > Marriage Date: 1876 > Marriage Place: West Baton Rouge > Isidore > > -----Original Message----- > From: acvachon@videotron.ca > > Hello everyone, > > Did someone have the exact date for the wedding of Isidore > LEJEUNE and > Olympe > LEJEUNE? > They supposed to got married around 1877 in West Bâton Rouge. > > Thanks for all, > Andre

In 1975, in the dioceses of the United States, marriage between 1st cousins and 1st cousins once removed would not have been celebrated without proper dispensation; and these dispensations would not have been granted except in "special circumstances" (e.g. pregnancy). The motive was to avoid, or at least minimize, the genetic disorders which are the consequence of inbreeding. In 1875, these norms would have been applied stringently, in Massachusetts and, I presume, in Louisiana. As to the question of validating a civil union between close relatives, I would think that, in 1875, that would be done only if once of the spouses was in immediate danger of death. Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian <acadian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 4:04 pm Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Isidore Lejeune and Olympe Lejeune André They were 1st cousins 1 generation removed. (A 2 to 3 Dispensation) There is NO New Orleans dispensation. (Anyone at Notre Dame to check he archive for correspondence?) The priest would (probably) NOT marry them without a dispensation. ocal civil authorities, if they knew of the relationship, would not ave either. Pere Jean - how easy would it be to get a dispensation? Would it have een easier to later present the family & get the union blessed? They would have to leave the parish (county) to marry. It is a little ar (& early) but could they have gone down to Thibodaux to marry? ny other likely places for a civil marriage? Paul -----Original Message----- rom: acvachon@videotron.ca Thanks for all Paul! Here the link for Isidore and Olympe: Isidore LEJEUNE parents: Séverin LEJEUNE + Séraphine AILLET sidore LEJEUNE grandparents: Jean-Baptiste LEJEUNE + Marie-Geneviève OUARON Olympe LEJEUNE parents: Alfred LEJEUNE + Elizabeth FORET lympe LEJEUNE grandparents: Zénon LEJEUNE + Elizabeth MARTIN lympe LEJEUNE great-grandparents: Jean-Baptiste LEJEUNE + arie-Geneviève OUARON Boring that we can't find the exact date for their wedding. Best regards, ndre ----- Message d'origine ----- e: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> > Interesting Looks like just a civil marriage. Was it a 2nd marriage for one or both? They are NOT in Cole & Cancienne (Iris Allain LeJeune Compiler) West Baton Parish Records 1807-1915 (courthouse records). This implies they went somewhere else to marry. How closely were they related. Could not wait for church dispensation? ================================ Louisiana Marriages, 1718-1925 about Isidore Lejeune Name: Isidore Lejeune Spouse: Olyupe Lejeune Marriage Date: 1876 Marriage Place: West Baton Rouge Isidore -----Original Message----- From: acvachon@videotron.ca Hello everyone, Did someone have the exact date for the wedding of Isidore LEJEUNE and Olympe LEJEUNE? They supposed to got married around 1877 in West Bâton Rouge. Thanks for all, Andre ------------------------------- o check our Archive ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------ o subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the essage. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" nrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Another source West Baton Rouge Parish Marriage Records 1807-1915 (civil/courthouse) p 115 -----Original Message----- From: Paul L LeBlanc DOBR v 12 p 381, 549 George B Smith & Anny Smith Wit Cora Williams; Achille Lejeune; Mary Puee; Wm Harrison SJBB-2, 66 -----Original Message----- From: acvachon@videotron.ca Hello everyone, Did someone knows the parents of Randolph SMITH, spouse of Mathilde LEJEUNE, married the 11 November 1873, St. John the Baptist’s of Brusly? Best regards, Andre

Another source West Baton Rouge Parish Marriage Records 1807-1915 (civil/courthouse) p 78 ==================== SJBB-2a, 24    Wit Abraham Lejeune;Eulger Le Blanc; Edg Hebert    -----Original Message-----  From: Paul L LeBlanc   DOBR v 12 p 271, 379    Camille Hebert & Analise LaBauve    Missed in vol 11 added as a correction in v 12    -----Original Message-----  From: acvachon@videotron.ca  Hello,    Did someone knows the parents of Aloysia HEBERT, spouse of Achille  LEJEUNE,  married the 29 November 1870, St. John the Baptist’s of Brusly?    Best regards,  Andre   

André They were 1st cousins 1 generation removed. (A 2 to 3 Dispensation) There is NO New Orleans dispensation. (Anyone at Notre Dame to check the archive for correspondence?) The priest would (probably) NOT marry them without a dispensation. Local civil authorities, if they knew of the relationship, would not have either. Pere Jean - how easy would it be to get a dispensation? Would it have been easier to later present the family & get the union blessed? They would have to leave the parish (county) to marry. It is a little far (& early) but could they have gone down to Thibodaux to marry? Any other likely places for a civil marriage? Paul -----Original Message----- From: acvachon@videotron.ca Thanks for all Paul! Here the link for Isidore and Olympe: Isidore LEJEUNE parents: Séverin LEJEUNE + Séraphine AILLET Isidore LEJEUNE grandparents: Jean-Baptiste LEJEUNE + Marie-Geneviève DOUARON Olympe LEJEUNE parents: Alfred LEJEUNE + Elizabeth FORET Olympe LEJEUNE grandparents: Zénon LEJEUNE + Elizabeth MARTIN Olympe LEJEUNE great-grandparents: Jean-Baptiste LEJEUNE + Marie-Geneviève DOUARON Boring that we can't find the exact date for their wedding. Best regards, Andre ----- Message d'origine ----- De: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> > Interesting > > Looks like just a civil marriage. Was it a 2nd marriage > for one or > both? > > They are NOT in Cole & Cancienne (Iris Allain LeJeune Compiler) > West > Baton Parish Records 1807-1915 (courthouse records). This > implies they > went somewhere else to marry. How closely were they related. > Could not > wait for church dispensation? > > ================================ > > Louisiana Marriages, 1718-1925 > about Isidore Lejeune > Name: Isidore Lejeune > Spouse: Olyupe Lejeune > Marriage Date: 1876 > Marriage Place: West Baton Rouge > Isidore > > -----Original Message----- > From: acvachon@videotron.ca > > Hello everyone, > > Did someone have the exact date for the wedding of Isidore > LEJEUNE and > Olympe > LEJEUNE? > They supposed to got married around 1877 in West Bâton Rouge. > > Thanks for all, > Andre

Thanks for all Paul! Here the link for Isidore and Olympe: Isidore LEJEUNE parents: Séverin LEJEUNE + Séraphine AILLET Isidore LEJEUNE grandparents: Jean-Baptiste LEJEUNE + Marie-Geneviève DOUARON Olympe LEJEUNE parents: Alfred LEJEUNE + Elizabeth FORET Olympe LEJEUNE grandparents: Zénon LEJEUNE + Elizabeth MARTIN Olympe LEJEUNE great-grandparents: Jean-Baptiste LEJEUNE + Marie-Geneviève DOUARON Boring that we can't find the exact date for their wedding. Best regards, Andre ----- Message d'origine ----- De: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> Date: Mardi, 4 Janvier 2011, 1:18 pm Objet: Re: [ACADIAN] Isidore Lejeune and Olympe Lejeune À: acadian@rootsweb.com > Interesting > > Looks like just a civil marriage. Was it a 2nd marriage > for one or > both? > > They are NOT in Cole & Cancienne (Iris Allain LeJeune Compiler) > West > Baton Parish Records 1807-1915 (courthouse records). This > implies they > went somewhere else to marry. How closely were they related. > Could not > wait for church dispensation? > > ================================ > > Louisiana Marriages, 1718-1925 > about Isidore Lejeune > Name: Isidore Lejeune > Spouse: Olyupe Lejeune > Marriage Date: 1876 > Marriage Place: West Baton Rouge > Isidore > > -----Original Message----- > From: acvachon@videotron.ca > > Hello everyone, > > Did someone have the exact date for the wedding of Isidore > LEJEUNE and > Olympe > LEJEUNE? > They supposed to got married around 1877 in West Bâton Rouge. > > Thanks for all, > Andre > > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You > will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" > enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to > call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting Looks like just a civil marriage. Was it a 2nd marriage for one or both? They are NOT in Cole & Cancienne (Iris Allain LeJeune Compiler) West Baton Parish Records 1807-1915 (courthouse records). This implies they went somewhere else to marry. How closely were they related. Could not wait for church dispensation? ================================ Louisiana Marriages, 1718-1925 about Isidore Lejeune Name: Isidore Lejeune Spouse: Olyupe Lejeune Marriage Date: 1876 Marriage Place: West Baton Rouge Isidore -----Original Message----- From: acvachon@videotron.ca Hello everyone, Did someone have the exact date for the wedding of Isidore LEJEUNE and Olympe LEJEUNE? They supposed to got married around 1877 in West Bâton Rouge. Thanks for all, Andre

DOBR v 12 p 381, 549 George B Smith & Anny Smith Wit Cora Williams; Achille Lejeune; Mary Puee; Wm Harrison SJBB-2, 66 -----Original Message----- From: acvachon@videotron.ca Hello everyone, Did someone knows the parents of Randolph SMITH, spouse of Mathilde LEJEUNE, married the 11 November 1873, St. John the Baptist’s of Brusly? Best regards, Andre

DOBR v 12 p 271, 379 Camille Hebert & Analise LaBauve Missed in vol 11 added as a correction in v 12 -----Original Message----- From: acvachon@videotron.ca To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 8:51 am Subject: [ACADIAN] Aloysia Hebert Hello, Did someone knows the parents of Aloysia HEBERT, spouse of Achille LEJEUNE, married the 29 November 1870, St. John the Baptist’s of Brusly? Best regards, Andre