Hi Rhonda, I use the traveline website: http://www.travelinescotland.com/welcome.do for planning public transport around Scotland. Having travelled the length and breadth of the country by bus I can heartily recommend this form of travel. The changing accents alone are worth a ride! Enjoy your travels, Jane nr Edinburgh On 08/10/2013 08:00, [email protected] wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Yule -visit to Aberdeen (Ray Hennessy) > 2. Re: Yule -visit to Aberdeen (e-mail wrentony) > 3. Re: Variations on the forename: "Christian" ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:00:45 +0100 > From: Ray Hennessy <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Yule -visit to Aberdeen > To: Aberdeen List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Rhonda > > I don't know about public transport though I do know there is a good train > service from Aberdeen to Huntly. I think you may find getting to actual > locations of interest a bit of a chore if you don't have your own > transport. Maybe locals can advise you more on this but I hav found a car > invaluable, especially to see the farms and cottages - and graveyards. Not > to mention the stunning views. > > Apart from that, do you expect to spend time in the King Street offices of > the Aberdeen & N E Scotland Family History Society? This is free for > members or there is a small daily charge for each non-member. If you are > going to spend a noticeable amount of time using their excellent services > then staying at The City Centre Premier Inn is a good base. It is not the > lowest cost place but is only 1-2 minutes from ANESFHS. If you do hire a > car for one or two days, it is easy to get out of town from there and there > is usually just about enough parking at the hotel. They do a massive > breakfast [for an extra fixed charge] or you can get simple food > [sandwiches, fruit] from the Morrisons Superstore [good Caf?] a bit further > up King Street - 4-5 minutes walk. > > If you do want to use ANESFHS, there are a number of B&Bs not too far away > but they can be variable. We stayed at a horrible one some years ago with > a loud-mouth, bigoted proprietor who never stopped going on about his > prejudices. We spent as much time out of the place as we could. Luckily > it was only a 20 minute walk to ANESFHS, or even quicker if a bus came > along. > > Evening meals can be excellent at one of the many restaurants. I am a bit > picky but have never been disappointed: English, Italian, indian, etc, food > all available and there are plenty of pubs. > > If you like Art, don't miss the Art Gallery in Schoolhill - 10 minutes walk > from ANESFHS [past Marks & Spencer - if you can!!]. It is superb. > > Enjoy your visit > Best wishes > > Ray Hennessy > www.whatsinaname.net > > > On 7 October 2013 06:23, Rhonda Ross <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello to all listers, >> >> Over a period of many years I have been researching the Yule and Anderson >> families. They lived in the Huntly, Kildrummy, Monymusk and Forgue area's >> in the 1800's. I am considering taking a trip to Aberdeen next year and >> seek suggestions on where to base my stay. Would I need to hire a car or >> could I travel on public transport? I would love to visit the graves of my >> families and of course if I could meet up with unknown relatives that old >> be wonderful. I have never travelled outside of Australia so I am a little >> apprehensive but look forward to this journey and want to make the most of >> every day. >> >> Other names in my families are Wattie and McKnight. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Rhonda in Cairns Australia >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:19:21 +0100 > From: e-mail wrentony <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Yule -visit to Aberdeen > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > You could get to these places by bus, BUT you would have to walk about a > mile from the main road to Forgue, and bus journeys on most of the routes > are every two hours, and you would need to change several times. > > Much better to rent a car. Last time I did this I stayed at the Travelodge > at Bucksburn, pretty basic and cheap, but with a restaurant next door, and > very convenient for the airport and all the places you mention. With a car > also you can see many of the spendours of Aberdeenshire, but I should not > have chosen yuletide to do it! > > Good luck, > > Tony > > > On 7 October 2013 06:23, Rhonda Ross <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello to all listers, >> >> Over a period of many years I have been researching the Yule and Anderson >> families. They lived in the Huntly, Kildrummy, Monymusk and Forgue area's >> in the 1800's. I am considering taking a trip to Aberdeen next year and >> seek suggestions on where to base my stay. Would I need to hire a car or >> could I travel on public transport? I would love to visit the graves of my >> families and of course if I could meet up with unknown relatives that old >> be wonderful. I have never travelled outside of Australia so I am a little >> apprehensive but look forward to this journey and want to make the most of >> every day. >> >> Other names in my families are Wattie and McKnight. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Rhonda in Cairns Australia >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 22:09:05 -0700 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Variations on the forename: "Christian" > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I should have added that I now leave the gender > question on forms blank, or choose "Both" if > that's offered. I was thinking of new researchers > who have yet to learn the tricks and who might > give up, thinking that great-granny isn't recorded > anywhere. And researchers of the future will > indeed, as Janet says, have to learn that trick > quickly with the large number of formerly > masculine names now being used for both -- > although they then tend to become gradually > thought of as girls' names and the process starts > over with different ones, and a trend to use > formerly girls' names for boys is never, > historically, as common. > > Incidentally, the name Christian was used in the > British Isles for both boy and girl babies from > c1200 on (or at least, first appearing in records > around that date). It was never one of the heavily > used names like Elizabeth, Ann, Mary, Margaret or > Jane for girls, for example, but it hung in there > for centuries, originally in honour of various > saints named Christian or Christianus. However, > the modest surge in popularity and the division > into a distinctly male and female form happened in > England with the publication of Bunyan's > "Pilgrim's Progress" in 1678 (Part I) and 1684 > (Part II), the two parts being about the religious > pilgrimages of the husband and wife Christian and > Christiana. Interestingly (well, I think it's > interesting, but then I tend to go riding off on > my hobbyhorse when names are discussed), in > Scotland and Ireland the majority of "Christians" > (the basic name, setting aside the variants) were > girls, while more often the pet-name "Christie" > was used as a formally given name for boys, > leading to the use of that as a surname. > > Margaret Gibbs > whose father wanted to name her Marilyn because > "Margaret is so common in Scotland" (being the > most-used name for girls there for centuries > thanks to Saint/Queen Margaret), but who is > grateful her mother's wishes won out because the > name is woven so tightly into the fabric of the > country and binds me to so many, many ancestresses > > > > > > > > On 03/10/2013 1:33 PM, Janet wrote: >> I follow what you are saying about there being a male name "Christian" but isnt that late >> 19th century onward. >> I just wonder; those who know about variations in name giving, and my, dont we find some >> in names given to children nowadays, >> would we not leave the gender part of the search without selection?. I usually do, so it >> allows all results which are mostly >> sorted correctly gender-wise. Of course we have to use our eyes and not let the modern >> brain lead the way. >> >> Janet >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From:<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Variations on the forename: "Christian" >> >> >>> While I have the same pronunciation preference as >>> Venita, the problem that can raise for family >>> history researchers is that in England (and other >>> countries) "Christian" is a male forename, and if >>> you check off Female on some forms while searching >>> for a Scottish ancestress by that name, you get >>> back "0 results". But then try for a census record >>> using the name of someone else in her family, and >>> there little "Kursteen" (as one record had it) is, >>> as a daughter of the family. My paternal >>> Aberdonian grandparents and relatives all >>> pronounced the personal name "Christian" as >>> something close to the Scandinavian "Kirsten", >>> hence the abbreviated common pet-name Kirstie. >>> However, they pronounced the adjective referring >>> to the religion as "Kristin" (and my maternal >>> Borders relatives pronounced the personal name >>> also as "Kristin"). I remember as a small child >>> finding this fascinating, which probably helped to >>> nudge me eventually towards my academic career in >>> historical and comparative onomastics -- I even >>> managed to work my gt-gt-grandmother >>> Christian-et-al into the oral defence of my PhD >>> thesis on Scottish names. (Probably startled the >>> lady into a quick spin in her grave: "What? Did >>> the lassie just take my name in vain? What on >>> earth is the bairn talking about?" :-) ) >>> >>> Margaret Gibbs >>> >>> >>> On 03/10/2013 10:44 AM, Venita wrote: >>>> My grandfather, who was half Scottish and half English, had a sister named Christian. >>>> My grandmother always pronounced her name Christie-ann, but many in the family called >>>> her "Christy" and spelled her name Christine or Christina. I vote for the original >>>> spelling and pronunciation! >>>> >>>> Venita >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 2 October 2013 16:54, Margaret Gibbs<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And there are other nicknames for Christian, which is what appears on my >>>>>> gt-gt-grandmother's christening record. I was just listing the variants I'd >>>>>> found for her in her christening, marriage, census, and death records. Her >>>>>> husband registered her death as "Christina", although my grandfather said >>>>>> he never heard him call his wife anything but "Kirsty" -- or "my love" -- >>>>>> and on her marriage certificate she signed her name quite clearly as >>>>>> "Christianna". The family joke was that she decided to "frilly up" her name >>>>>> to match her wedding gown :-) . >>>>>> >>>>>> Margaret Gibbs >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] >>>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>>>> message >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>> message >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with >>> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ABERDEEN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ABERDEEN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 196 > ****************************************