Hi Jo-Anne The fact that his death certificate says John Smith (deceased) reputed father suggests that John Smith was illegitimate so he may have been christened under his mothers name. There doesn't look to be an obvious christening under McKnight (or Knight) which could mean the family were not Church of Scotland but another denomination the records of which are not online. Whilst he gives Monquhitter as his place of birth it may not be correct, his mother may have gone away to give birth, also a birth and a christening could be in different places It might be worth looking at his mothers death registration to see what her parents names. A possible registration is Margaret Cartney (other surname McKnight) age 70 in New Pitsligo in 1870. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Jo-Anne HUBER Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 3:54 PM To: aberdeen Subject: [ABERDEEN] John SMITH b. 1831/32 Monquhitter Aberdeen List, I am trying to find the birth of John SMITH, b. 1831 or 32 Monquhitter Aberdeenshire. The information I had was not correct. I have recently found on Scotland's People the death record for John. In the record it states that he is married to Ann Massie (illegitimate). He died on October 23, 1898 at 5:30 am. at Haddoleys Troup Gamrie. John was about 67 years old and he was the son of John SMITH (deceased) Reputed father. His mother is listed as Margret McKnight afterward wife of John Cartney Crofter (Deceased) The person giving the information is James Grant who was a worker on the farm (present) The age at death leads me to believe that he would have been born in 1831 or 32. His place of birth in the census records is always listed as Monquhitter. Can anyone tell me what and where Haddoleys Troup is. Also any suggestions on finding a birth record would be appreciated. I have tried searching the IGI and Scotland's People using John SMITH and Margret McKnight as the parents with no luck. Regards, Jo-Anne Smith-Huber ANESFHS # 16407