Thank you Ray, Alexander, Les, Alison, Janet Cheri & Mary, I had to name you all as I appreciate the good advice and information you have given me. Now to answer your questions. I have not yet found a birth for Isabella McPHEE (FEE, FIE, PHIE) b c 1818 -1820 in Inverness, Father John Mc. I did find Isobel McPHIE 12.10.1818, Inverness F. William Mc, M. Sarah Neil (not Fraser as on the Isabella's DC). Makes sense with Cheri's comment now. William may have got the Mother and Grandmother's surnames mixed? I have her marriage cert from OPR Scotlandspeople. Henry COOK, Seaman in Aberdeen, was on the Seventh day of August 1845. Married at Aberdeen to Isabella McFEE, there daughter of John McFEE, Weaver in Inverness, by the Reverend James Newlands, Minister of St. Clements Parish, Aberdeen. In the presence of these witnesses, James Urquhart and James Hudston, both Seamen in Aberdeen. Isabella McFEE & Henry COOK's children are, Mary Ann b 1848, Henry b 1850 Jemima b 1852 (mine) all christened in St. Nicholas, Aberdeen. In the 1851 Aberdeen Census they are all in Virginia Street minus Jemima. In 1861 Essex Census I found Henry jnr and Jemima COOK in Wivenhoe with Grandmother COOK. (Janet, we do not know where Mary Ann COOK went (she would have been 12 & no death found for her). Maybe sent out to work? In 1861 & 1871 Aberdeen Census Isabella & William CHALMERS live at 53 Longacre, it seems with William's older children and baby Isabella CHALMERS 3 mths old. (Isabella McPHEE died at the same address in 1873). It is the baby Isabella's birth in Dec 1860 that has Mother Isabella McPHEE or COOK, Father William CHALMERS. (Married in June 1860, St. Nicholas). William CHALMERS her 2nd husband was informant at Isabella McPHEE CHALMERS death. 1st husband Henry COOK snr possibly died at sea (being a seaman) and I would think before 1860? The Isabella COOK who died in Jan. 1860 (Mother Isabella COOK ms McPHEE) was aged 3 years and buried in Old Machar. No Father's name. (Possibly Henry COOK had died by then)?? Thank you, you have given me food for thought! Isabel, N.Z.

Hi Isabel, If you check Isabelle's marriage record to her second husband you will see William McPhee and Sally Neal listed as her parents. I found William's death record showing his parents, which will take you back another generation.   Cheri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isabel Anderson" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:46:07 AM Subject: [ABERDEEN] Isabella McPHEE, COOK, CHALMERS Thank you Ray, Alexander, Les, Alison, Janet Cheri & Mary, I had to name you all as I appreciate the good advice and information you have given me. Now to answer your questions. I have not yet found a birth for Isabella McPHEE (FEE, FIE, PHIE) b c 1818 -1820 in Inverness, Father John Mc. I did find Isobel McPHIE 12.10.1818, Inverness F. William Mc, M. Sarah Neil (not Fraser as on the Isabella's DC). Makes sense with Cheri's comment now. William may have got the Mother and Grandmother's surnames mixed? I have her marriage cert from OPR Scotlandspeople. Henry COOK, Seaman in Aberdeen, was on the Seventh day of August 1845. Married at Aberdeen to Isabella McFEE, there daughter of John McFEE, Weaver in Inverness, by the Reverend James Newlands, Minister of St. Clements Parish, Aberdeen.  In the presence of these witnesses, James Urquhart and James Hudston, both Seamen in Aberdeen. Isabella McFEE & Henry COOK's children are, Mary Ann b 1848, Henry b 1850 Jemima b 1852 (mine) all christened in St. Nicholas, Aberdeen. In the 1851 Aberdeen Census they are all in Virginia Street minus Jemima. In 1861 Essex Census I found Henry jnr and Jemima COOK in Wivenhoe with Grandmother COOK. (Janet, we do not know where Mary Ann COOK went (she would have been 12 & no death found for her).  Maybe sent out to work? In 1861 & 1871 Aberdeen Census Isabella & William CHALMERS live at 53 Longacre, it seems with William's older children and baby Isabella CHALMERS 3 mths old.  (Isabella McPHEE died at the same address in 1873). It is the baby Isabella's birth in Dec 1860 that has Mother Isabella McPHEE or COOK, Father William CHALMERS. (Married in June 1860, St. Nicholas). William CHALMERS her 2nd husband was informant at Isabella McPHEE CHALMERS death. 1st husband Henry COOK snr possibly died at sea (being a seaman) and I would think before 1860? The Isabella COOK who died in Jan. 1860 (Mother Isabella COOK ms McPHEE) was aged 3 years and buried in Old Machar. No Father's name. (Possibly Henry COOK had died by then)?? Thank you, you have given me food for thought! Isabel, N.Z.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could the difficulties you are experiencing tracing McPhees (in their various spellings) possibly relate to many of this name being old fashioned tinkers/gypsies?. I imagine that they will have even more likely than their contemporaries not to have births and marriages recorded by the parish in which they happened to temporarily be at the time of the event Tom On 10 March 2014 08:46, Isabel Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Ray, Alexander, Les, Alison, Janet Cheri & Mary, > > I had to name you all as I appreciate the good advice and information you > have given me. Now to answer your questions. > > I have not yet found a birth for Isabella McPHEE (FEE, FIE, PHIE) b c > 1818 -1820 in Inverness, Father John Mc. > I did find Isobel McPHIE 12.10.1818, Inverness F. William Mc, M. Sarah Neil > (not Fraser as on the Isabella's DC). Makes sense with Cheri's comment now. > William may have got the Mother and Grandmother's surnames mixed? > > I have her marriage cert from OPR Scotlandspeople. > Henry COOK, Seaman in Aberdeen, was on the Seventh day of August 1845. > Married at Aberdeen to Isabella McFEE, there daughter of John McFEE, Weaver > in Inverness, by the Reverend James Newlands, Minister of St. Clements > Parish, Aberdeen. In the presence of these witnesses, James Urquhart and > James Hudston, both Seamen in Aberdeen. > > Isabella McFEE & Henry COOK's children are, > Mary Ann b 1848, > Henry b 1850 > Jemima b 1852 (mine) all christened in St. Nicholas, Aberdeen. > > In the 1851 Aberdeen Census they are all in Virginia Street minus Jemima. > In 1861 Essex Census I found Henry jnr and Jemima COOK in Wivenhoe with > Grandmother COOK. > (Janet, we do not know where Mary Ann COOK went (she would have been 12 & > no > death found for her). Maybe sent out to work? > In 1861 & 1871 Aberdeen Census Isabella & William CHALMERS live at 53 > Longacre, it seems with William's older children and baby Isabella CHALMERS > 3 mths old. (Isabella McPHEE died at the same address in 1873). > It is the baby Isabella's birth in Dec 1860 that has Mother Isabella McPHEE > or COOK, Father William CHALMERS. (Married in June 1860, St. Nicholas). > > William CHALMERS her 2nd husband was informant at Isabella McPHEE CHALMERS > death. > > 1st husband Henry COOK snr possibly died at sea (being a seaman) and I > would > think before 1860? > > The Isabella COOK who died in Jan. 1860 (Mother Isabella COOK ms McPHEE) > was aged 3 years and buried in Old Machar. No Father's name. (Possibly > Henry > COOK had died by then)?? > > Thank you, you have given me food for thought! > Isabel, > N.Z. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Isabel Re the McPHEEs, a ittle story for you. ================================ We were staying with Sheena's cousin Kitty [short for Christian] who said "we'll go for a little run in your car" i.e. my car! After the first 100miles we stopped at a pub for coffee. After a bit in came an aul mannie who leant on our table and said "Ah'm nae verry weel". Kitty was very considerate to him, explaining how to breathe better in bed with lots of pillows etc. He said, "Ma trector has been vandalised". "Who by" Kitty said. "By the McPhees," he replied Kitty: "The toffs or the tinks?" "Aye, the tinks." "Na, I dinna ken the tinks," Kitty said, "but I ken the toffs." Kitty was a tax inspector [ ✟ ] and knew almost everybody in Aberdeenshire. And they knew her! We thought she had been really kind and considerate to the aul mannie. After we left, Kitty took our arms and said "Borin' aul bugger." Introduction to Aberdeenshire politesse! Our "little run" ended up as 256 miles but at least we saw the Ospreys at Loch Garten. ================================ It was ten years ago but is still as clear in our foggy minds as yesterday - or better. Just thought you should know that there were two distinct tribes of the McPHEEs. Ray Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net On 10 March 2014 08:46, Isabel Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Ray, Alexander, Les, Alison, Janet Cheri & Mary, > > I had to name you all as I appreciate the good advice and information you > have given me. Now to answer your questions. > > I have not yet found a birth for Isabella McPHEE (FEE, FIE, PHIE) b c > 1818 -1820 in Inverness, Father John Mc. > I did find Isobel McPHIE 12.10.1818, Inverness F. William Mc, M. Sarah Neil > (not Fraser as on the Isabella's DC). Makes sense with Cheri's comment now. > William may have got the Mother and Grandmother's surnames mixed? > > I have her marriage cert from OPR Scotlandspeople. > Henry COOK, Seaman in Aberdeen, was on the Seventh day of August 1845. > Married at Aberdeen to Isabella McFEE, there daughter of John McFEE, Weaver > in Inverness, by the Reverend James Newlands, Minister of St. Clements > Parish, Aberdeen. In the presence of these witnesses, James Urquhart and > James Hudston, both Seamen in Aberdeen. > > Isabella McFEE & Henry COOK's children are, > Mary Ann b 1848, > Henry b 1850 > Jemima b 1852 (mine) all christened in St. Nicholas, Aberdeen. > > In the 1851 Aberdeen Census they are all in Virginia Street minus Jemima. > In 1861 Essex Census I found Henry jnr and Jemima COOK in Wivenhoe with > Grandmother COOK. > (Janet, we do not know where Mary Ann COOK went (she would have been 12 & > no > death found for her). Maybe sent out to work? > In 1861 & 1871 Aberdeen Census Isabella & William CHALMERS live at 53 > Longacre, it seems with William's older children and baby Isabella CHALMERS > 3 mths old. (Isabella McPHEE died at the same address in 1873). > It is the baby Isabella's birth in Dec 1860 that has Mother Isabella McPHEE > or COOK, Father William CHALMERS. (Married in June 1860, St. Nicholas). > > William CHALMERS her 2nd husband was informant at Isabella McPHEE CHALMERS > death. > > 1st husband Henry COOK snr possibly died at sea (being a seaman) and I > would > think before 1860? > > The Isabella COOK who died in Jan. 1860 (Mother Isabella COOK ms McPHEE) > was aged 3 years and buried in Old Machar. No Father's name. (Possibly > Henry > COOK had died by then)?? > > Thank you, you have given me food for thought! > Isabel, > N.Z. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >