The General Register Office in Surrey works on the principle of not for profit so we are paying a fee which is not commercially inflated, but supports the expense of running the Department. I suspect GROS is the same.. As we are sharing information and making comparisons, it may be that English certificates from an early date are not fully informative; it would be interesting to know. I have some very early baptismal records in London and surrounding counties. Records for other parts of England are not complete. In a baptismal or christening record, the date of birth is not always inserted and only the father's name and occupation also, but registration was from 1837 though not enforced until a later date. There is also FreeBMD back to 1837 which is helpful and the earlier dates show the mother's maiden surname. I dont have early births and marriages as mine were born Scotland. I have in front of me in England, 1857 Marriage Solemnized at the name of the church, Parish and County Date of Marriage, Name and surname of bride & groom, Age of bride and groom, Rank and profession, Residence at the time, Father's names, Rank or Profession. The certificate states the religion and signatures of both parties and the names of Witnesses. 1894, Date of birth, address where born, "Sex", Name and surname of father, Name and maiden surname of mother, Rank or profession of Father, Signature Description and Residence of Informant. Date when Registered, signature of registrar 1899 When and where died, name and surname, Sex, age, occupation, cause of death, signature, description and residence of Informant, When registered. Signature of Registrar If I can help please let me know. The fact that Scotland's People's records are online at a comparatively low fee is a tremendous benefit. I think FMP has transcriptions not the original documents which are held in Scotland. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Bisset" <ambisset@btinternet.com> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Scotland's People Yet it is still far cheaper than getting certificates with less information when you are lumbered with English ancestors and their bare indexes. This is typically why a very large number of tree with English ancestors have births to the nearest quarter as typically people don't want to pay the extra for a certificate. Especially since an English certificate contains very little data. As I have said four or five times now, I desperately want to see a subscription service as I have purchased just over 1500 images from Scotland's people (1506 to be precise). I would view a whole lot more if it was a subscription service but a credit system still doesn't put me off. I have 1/16 2g grandparents who is English the other 15/16 are from NE Scotland, the English line is far far more about finding them on a census as that is almost the only reliable source of data out there that you can view as images, although thankfully that's slowly changing but it's hit or miss depending on where your ancestors came from. After that you typically have to rely on films or visiting specific research centres or worse information from others. Whereas the depth and variety of Scottish records at Scotland's people with the wealth of info you get on each type of "certificate" means that almost everything can be done online from your own home, and it's only when you want to augment that info do you need to seek out other sources. I'd probably have given up years ago if I had mainly English ancestors and had to suffer the paucity of information that is available. Regards Alexander Bisset --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

FMP only has census records for Scotland (1841-1901) and these are transcripts with many mistakes in them. For example Cairnie, Aberdeenshire appears on occasion as Carnie or Caimie. There are no images for Scotland. It is useful however for checking Census records in order to narrow your search before going to ScotlandsPeople. There are many other records available on FMP e.g. overseas and newspapers however, and they do a monthly membership which is useful. Colin On 1 April 2014 12:12, Janet <cilurnum@googlemail.com> wrote: > The General Register Office in Surrey works on the principle of not for > profit > so we are paying a fee which is not commercially inflated, but supports the > expense of running the Department. I suspect GROS is the same.. > > As we are sharing information and making comparisons, it may be that > English > certificates from an early date are not fully informative; it would be > interesting to know. I have some very early baptismal records in London > and > surrounding counties. Records for other parts of England are not complete. > In a > baptismal or christening record, the date of birth is not always inserted > and > only the father's name and occupation also, but registration was from 1837 > though not enforced until a later date. There is also FreeBMD back to 1837 > which is helpful and the earlier dates show the mother's maiden surname. > I > dont have early births and marriages as mine were born Scotland. I > have in > front of me in England, > > 1857 Marriage Solemnized at the name of the church, Parish and County > Date of Marriage, Name and surname of bride & groom, Age of bride and > groom, > Rank and profession, Residence at the time, Father's names, Rank or > Profession. > The certificate states the religion and signatures of both parties and the > names > of Witnesses. > > 1894, Date of birth, address where born, "Sex", Name and surname of > father, Name > and maiden surname of mother, Rank or profession of Father, Signature > Description and Residence of Informant. Date when Registered, signature of > registrar > > 1899 When and where died, name and surname, Sex, age, occupation, cause of > death, signature, description and residence of Informant, When registered. > Signature of Registrar > > If I can help please let me know. > > The fact that Scotland's People's records are online at a comparatively > low fee > is a tremendous benefit. I think FMP has transcriptions not the original > documents which are held in Scotland. > > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alexander Bisset" <ambisset@btinternet.com> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 12:11 AM > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Scotland's People > > > Yet it is still far cheaper than getting certificates with less > information when > you are lumbered with English ancestors and their bare indexes. This is > typically why a very large number of tree with English ancestors have > births to > the nearest quarter as typically people don't want to pay the extra for a > certificate. Especially since an English certificate contains very little > data. > > As I have said four or five times now, I desperately want to see a > subscription > service as I have purchased just over 1500 images from Scotland's people > (1506 > to be precise). I would view a whole lot more if it was a subscription > service > but a credit system still doesn't put me off. > > I have 1/16 2g grandparents who is English the other 15/16 are from NE > Scotland, > the English line is far far more about finding them on a census as that is > almost the only reliable source of data out there that you can view as > images, > although thankfully that's slowly changing but it's hit or miss depending > on > where your ancestors came from. After that you typically have to rely on > films > or visiting specific research centres or worse information from others. > > Whereas the depth and variety of Scottish records at Scotland's people > with the > wealth of info you get on each type of "certificate" means that almost > everything can be done online from your own home, and it's only when you > want to > augment that info do you need to seek out other sources. > > I'd probably have given up years ago if I had mainly English ancestors and > had > to suffer the paucity of information that is available. > > Regards > Alexander Bisset > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >