I have just started to research the male side of my family tree and am new to the List so I hope I am not going over old ground. Using 'Scotland's People' website I have managed to trace back via a line of William Davidson, all farm workers, to a George Davidson of Buchanhaven, Peterhead listed in the 1841 census as aged 40, occupation Sp. dist.(which I take to be Spirits Distributor.) From family birth certificate records I know he married a Margaret Smart on 23-03-1826, both from Peterhead, and that he gave his occupation as 'vintner'. I grew up in N.E. Scotland from the 1940s to the 1960s and I cannot recall ever coming across 'vintner' as an occupation. Obviously, I know it means wine merchant today, but my questions are:- a) what exactly was a 'vintner' back then? b) how common was it as an occupation? c) is it likely to have passed from father to son? I have traced a Charles Davidson who had a son,George, by his wife Jean Farquhar, in 1801 and who also gives his occupation as 'vintner' but the location is Inverurie. In the absence of any other George Davidson born around 1800 in the locality of Peterhead, how confident can I be that I am making the correct link to the birth of George Davidson and is there any other means by which I can confirm it? Thanks in hopeful anticipation, Brian Davidson

I can only reply to the question about the "vintner". It isn't a term used very often. They were "vintners and victuallers" but I hesitate perhaps to say it didn't include the Whisky distillers. Have a look in Google perhaps. I have come across the DAVIDSON name in the Mearns, (Kincardineshire) Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "bj.davidson" <bj.davidson@talktalk.net> >I have just started to research the male side of my family tree and am new to the List so >I hope I am not going over old ground. Using 'Scotland's People' website I have managed >to trace back via a line of William Davidson, all farm workers, to a George Davidson of >Buchanhaven, Peterhead listed in the 1841 census as aged 40, occupation Sp. dist.(which I >take to be Spirits Distributor.) From family birth certificate records I know he married >a Margaret Smart on 23-03-1826, both from Peterhead, and that he gave his occupation as >'vintner'. I grew up in N.E. Scotland from the 1940s to the 1960s and I cannot recall >ever coming across 'vintner' as an occupation. Obviously, I know it means wine merchant >today, but my questions are:- > a) what exactly was a 'vintner' back then? > b) how common was it as an occupation? > c) is it likely to have passed from father to son? > I have traced a Charles Davidson who had a son,George, by his wife Jean Farquhar, in > 1801 and who also gives his occupation as 'vintner' but the location is Inverurie. In > the absence of any other George Davidson born around 1800 in the locality of Peterhead, > how confident can I be that I am making the correct link to the birth of George Davidson > and is there any other means by which I can confirm it? > Thanks in hopeful anticipation, > Brian Davidson

Margaret and family still appear to be in Buchanhaven, Peterhead in the 1851 census but she is a widow with Alexander head of the family and a 'Crofter of 6ac' The youngest child is 2 so George must have died between 1849-51 which means no death certificate I'm afraid. Isobel Davidson ----- Original Message ----- From: "bj.davidson" <bj.davidson@talktalk.net> >I have just started to research the male side of my family tree and am new to the List so >I hope I am not going over old ground. Using 'Scotland's People' website I have managed >to trace back via a line of William Davidson, all farm workers, to a George Davidson of >Buchanhaven, Peterhead listed in the 1841 census as aged 40, occupation Sp. dist.(which I >take to be Spirits Distributor.) From family birth certificate records I know he married >a Margaret Smart on 23-03-1826, both from Peterhead, and that he gave his occupation as >'vintner'. I grew up in N.E. Scotland from the 1940s to the 1960s and I cannot recall >ever coming across 'vintner' as an occupation. Obviously, I know it means wine merchant >today, but my questions are:- > a) what exactly was a 'vintner' back then? > b) how common was it as an occupation? > c) is it likely to have passed from father to son? > I have traced a Charles Davidson who had a son,George, by his wife Jean Farquhar, in > 1801 and who also gives his occupation as 'vintner' but the location is Inverurie. In > the absence of any other George Davidson born around 1800 in the locality of Peterhead, > how confident can I be that I am making the correct link to the birth of George Davidson > and is there any other means by which I can confirm it? > Thanks in hopeful anticipation, > Brian Davidson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One of the Peterhead films has lists of deaths. I can have a look for him if BJ wants, next Tuesday. Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isobel Davidson" <Isobel.Davidson@tesco.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Davidson-vintner-Peterhead > Margaret and family still appear to be in Buchanhaven, Peterhead in the > 1851 > census but she is a widow with Alexander head of the family and a 'Crofter > of 6ac' The youngest child is 2 so George must have died between 1849-51 > which means no death certificate I'm afraid. > > Isobel Davidson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bj.davidson" <bj.davidson@talktalk.net> > > >>I have just started to research the male side of my family tree and am new > to the List so >>I hope I am not going over old ground. Using 'Scotland's People' website I > have managed >>to trace back via a line of William Davidson, all farm workers, to a >>George > Davidson of >>Buchanhaven, Peterhead listed in the 1841 census as aged 40, occupation >>Sp. > dist.(which I >>take to be Spirits Distributor.) From family birth certificate records I > know he married >>a Margaret Smart on 23-03-1826, both from Peterhead, and that he gave his > occupation as >>'vintner'. I grew up in N.E. Scotland from the 1940s to the 1960s and I > cannot recall >>ever coming across 'vintner' as an occupation. Obviously, I know it means > wine merchant >>today, but my questions are:- >> a) what exactly was a 'vintner' back then? >> b) how common was it as an occupation? >> c) is it likely to have passed from father to son? >> I have traced a Charles Davidson who had a son,George, by his wife >> Jean > Farquhar, in >> 1801 and who also gives his occupation as 'vintner' but the location is > Inverurie. In >> the absence of any other George Davidson born around 1800 in the locality > of Peterhead, >> how confident can I be that I am making the correct link to the birth of > George Davidson >> and is there any other means by which I can confirm it? >> Thanks in hopeful anticipation, >> Brian Davidson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi   I do know that the Peterhead Yahoo Group has a great listing for BMD for the Peterhead area. Have You tried them yet?   Vicki --- On Sat, 11/14/09, goldie and Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca> wrote: From: goldie and Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Davidson-vintner-Peterhead To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 2:55 PM One of the Peterhead films has lists of deaths.  I can have a look for him if BJ wants, next Tuesday.  Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isobel Davidson" <Isobel.Davidson@tesco.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Davidson-vintner-Peterhead > Margaret and family still appear to be in Buchanhaven, Peterhead in the > 1851 > census but she is a widow with Alexander head of the family and a 'Crofter > of 6ac' The youngest child is 2 so George must have died between 1849-51 > which means no death certificate I'm afraid. > > Isobel Davidson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bj.davidson" <bj.davidson@talktalk.net> > > >>I have just started to research the male side of my family tree and am new > to the List so >>I hope I am not going over old ground. Using 'Scotland's People' website I > have managed >>to trace back via a line of William Davidson, all farm workers, to a >>George > Davidson of >>Buchanhaven, Peterhead listed in the 1841 census as aged 40, occupation >>Sp. > dist.(which I >>take to be Spirits Distributor.) From family birth certificate records I > know he married >>a Margaret Smart on 23-03-1826, both from Peterhead, and that he gave his > occupation as >>'vintner'. I grew up in N.E. Scotland from the 1940s to the 1960s and I > cannot recall >>ever coming across 'vintner' as an occupation. Obviously, I know it means > wine merchant >>today, but my questions are:- >> a) what exactly was a 'vintner'  back then? >> b) how common was it as an occupation? >> c) is it likely to have passed from father to son? >>    I have traced a Charles Davidson who had a son,George, by his wife >> Jean > Farquhar, in >> 1801 and who also gives his occupation as 'vintner' but the location is > Inverurie. In >> the absence of any other George Davidson born around 1800 in the locality > of Peterhead, >> how confident can I be that I am making the correct link to the birth of > George Davidson >> and is there any other means by which I can confirm it? >> Thanks in hopeful anticipation, >> Brian Davidson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a site of old Scots occupations and according to that vinter was a wine merchant. Barb

Brian, If you go to FreeCen and select 1941, Aberdeenshire in Census county, and enter in occupation the word vintner, you will find that there were 57 Vintners. I also tried the aforementioned and found 123 Publicans, 1 Hotel Keeper and 53 Inn keepers recorded in the census for the county of Aberdeen. A number of them were entered as Vintner/Spirit Dealer, while others were Publican/Spirit Dealer and one as Publican/Vintner and a surprising number of all categories had duel occupations and were also farmers, blacksmiths, masons, ag labourer etc. It therefore looks as if there was no hard and fast rule, although I would hazard a guess that the publicans were running public houses, while the vintners and inn keepers were managing hotels/inns. Alex.