What would be the chances, do you suppose, of a female on the 1901 census who was married being listed under her maiden name? I have a Duthie in Cruden with his sister-in-law Eliz Walker who is given as 'Domestic Housekeeping', and 2 of John's daughters. In Peterhead I have the parents to Eliz Walker, then a Walker, Jemima also a Domestic servant (I know she belongs to the family) and another Duthie child given as Granddaughter. I dislike the word assume.........but it looks like Jemima is at home with her parents and has taken a child with her, while her sister keeps house in Cruden with their other 2 children. I can understand the siters helping out a sister so that makes sense to me. But, again, why is she showing up as WALKER, not Duthie? Was it still done in 1901? Bear with me, I'm coming down the home stretch here with the Walkers.....Then I'm going undercover for a month or more....I hope. Goldie
Definitely still married? Not a widow? Many a widow reverted to her maiden name after the death of her spouse. But, of course, women in Scotland do not 'give up' their maiden name on marriage and can (and do) choose to continue to be use their maiden name. Pat "Here's tae us! Wha's like us? Damn few! - an' they're a' deid!" Old Scots Toast -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of goldie and Lido Doratti Sent: 26 November 2009 23:10 To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: [ABERDEEN] Picking some brains here... What would be the chances, do you suppose, of a female on the 1901 census who was married being listed under her maiden name? I have a Duthie in Cruden with his sister-in-law Eliz Walker who is given as 'Domestic Housekeeping', and 2 of John's daughters. In Peterhead I have the parents to Eliz Walker, then a Walker, Jemima also a Domestic servant (I know she belongs to the family) and another Duthie child given as Granddaughter. I dislike the word assume.........but it looks like Jemima is at home with her parents and has taken a child with her, while her sister keeps house in Cruden with their other 2 children. I can understand the siters helping out a sister so that makes sense to me. But, again, why is she showing up as WALKER, not Duthie? Was it still done in 1901? Bear with me, I'm coming down the home stretch here with the Walkers.....Then I'm going undercover for a month or more....I hope. Goldie
Hi Goldie I'm not clear about the relationships in this scenario. There seem to be two possibilities: 1. If John was married to a sister - now deceased - of Elizabeth & Jemima, then the relationships all work: Elizabeth is housekeeping for her sister's widower and one of his daughters is staying with the grandparents on Census night. 2. You haven't given us the declared married status of John, Elizabeth or Jemima. Are you saying that Jemima is married to John DUTHIE? [do you *know* this?] If this is the point of the query then it is likely that the father, when making the return, either habitually used Jemima's maiden name or didn't put a name in. If he just wrote [or said] "daughter" the enumerator might easily have assumed her surname to be the same as the father's. Also, it would be quite possible for Elizabeth to be housekeeping at her sister's - probably because three children can be a handful and they might need extra help to bring in income, depending on John's occupation. As they say, "there's many a slip..." and enumerators were probably not very well paid and did everything in a hurry while also having a day job. HTH Ray 2009/11/26 goldie and Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca>: > What would be the chances, do you suppose, of a female on the 1901 census who was married being listed under her maiden name? > I have a Duthie in Cruden with his sister-in-law Eliz Walker who is given as 'Domestic Housekeeping', and 2 of John's daughters. > > In Peterhead I have the parents to Eliz Walker, then a Walker, Jemima also a Domestic servant (I know she belongs to the family) and another Duthie child given as Granddaughter. > I dislike the word assume.........but it looks like Jemima is at home with her parents and has taken a child with her, while her sister keeps house in Cruden with their other 2 children. I can understand the siters helping out a sister so that makes sense to me. But, again, why is she showing up as WALKER, not Duthie? Was it still done in 1901? > Bear with me, I'm coming down the home stretch here with the Walkers.....Then I'm going undercover for a month or more....I hope. Goldie >
Thanks Ray, here is what I have....... 1901 Census Cruden ABD address 19 Harbour St Duthie John head, age 32 abt 1869 b Cruden Abd Cooper Walker Elizabeth sister in law age 18 abt 1883 b Peterhead Abd Domestic Housekeeping Duthie Barbara A dau age 7 abt 1894 Cruden Abd Scholar Duthie Jane dau age 2 abat 1899 b Peterhead Abd **** 1901 Census Scotland Peterhead Abd Low Street No 13 Walker George head age 58 abut 1843 b Peterhead Abd, fisherman Walker Barbara wife age 58 abt 1843 b Peterhead, Abd Walker Jemima dau age 25 b abt 1876 b Peterhead, Abd,Domestic servant Duthie Christine granddau age 4 abt 1897 b Cruden, Abd **** For a fact I know that Elizabeth and Jemima are daughters of George and Barbara Walker, but I don't understand this.......why is she still a Walker if she was married to Duthie.......Out of the Walker family Jemima is the only likely candidate......others are dead, or too young. I can't get this thru my thick skull, I'm missing something and not thinking outside the box here. I know I can go to SP and get the answer but I've blown so many $$ doing this, I thought maybe someone could see something I can't. And DON'T anyone spend money on this on my behalf........it can stay the way it is. It just struck me as odd.. Thanks for the input, Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray7033@googlemail.com> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Picking some brains here... Hi Goldie I'm not clear about the relationships in this scenario. There seem to be two possibilities: 1. If John was married to a sister - now deceased - of Elizabeth & Jemima, then the relationships all work: Elizabeth is housekeeping for her sister's widower and one of his daughters is staying with the grandparents on Census night. 2. You haven't given us the declared married status of John, Elizabeth or Jemima. Are you saying that Jemima is married to John DUTHIE? [do you *know* this?] If this is the point of the query then it is likely that the father, when making the return, either habitually used Jemima's maiden name or didn't put a name in. If he just wrote [or said] "daughter" the enumerator might easily have assumed her surname to be the same as the father's. Also, it would be quite possible for Elizabeth to be housekeeping at her sister's - probably because three children can be a handful and they might need extra help to bring in income, depending on John's occupation. As they say, "there's many a slip..." and enumerators were probably not very well paid and did everything in a hurry while also having a day job. HTH Ray ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message