The MURRAY family that I research, has William Duff MURRAY Baptised / Born 1836 Woodside, Aberdeen , Scotland, his Brother James Duff MURRAY Bap / Born c 1839, ? Aberdeenshire . After emigrating to New Zealand, one of the sons of William was also James Duff Murray . No sign at all of a Duff connection, in my research, except for possibly a local land owner, but, unable to find now exactly where the Duff name showed , I think it was Banffshire . My own Grandfather ( different line ), Alfred Simpson DICK, Born 1883, Toucher, (near Cuminestown,) Monquhitter Parish, Aberdeenshire , Baptised in the Free Church, where the Minister was a Rev SIMPSON. Mary -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen Ogg-Moss Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2009 7:00 a.m. To: Aberdeen List Subject: [ABERDEEN] Charles Cordiner Kerr Hi, Just because there is no Cordiner is this person's ancestry doesn't mean the name is wrong. There is a James Duff Ogg, born in Aberdeenshire (10/01/1823). There are no Duffs in the Ogg family (my husband's family).. James was named for the person who owned the estate the Ogg croft was on. There is a Robert Gardner Duff born in Perthshire on 05/09/1841. There is no Gardner ancrestry in the Duff family (my family).. We still haven't found where the Gardner came from. So the middle name does not necessarily have to be in the family ancestry. Kathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 4634 (20091124) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Mary Legarth wrote: > The MURRAY family that I research, has William Duff MURRAY Baptised / Born > 1836 Woodside, Aberdeen , Scotland, I was a little surprised to see a birth/baptism shown as being recorded in "Woodside" in 1836, because at that date, it was part of the parish of Old Machar, only becoming a 'quoad sacra' parish in 1862 (by which time registration of births, deaths and marriages had passed to the civil Registrar). So I checked the IGI, and find that, while the birth of a William Duff Murray is indeed recorded on 9th April 1836, it is recorded as happening in "Aberdeen" (which was also not, at that date, the name of a parish) and that the entry is marked: "Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available." Now, it is quite possible for there to be documentary evidence for a birth/baptism that is independent of the Old parish Registers - but unless you know what that evidence is, I would have serious doubts about the accuracy of the claimed date and place of birth for William. Gavin Bell