However the original poster DID NOT ASK for something that can take anyone you choose and produce a descendant tree, almost all FT programs can do that. What he asked was a program that searched ALL of your most distant ancestors and produced a report for the lot of them in one go. That is radically different from MANUALLY searching for the top of each tree and MANUALLY clicking to produce a descendant report for each line. Sadly I know of no such program. Most programs work on the basis of producing ancestor or descendant reports based off a starting individual. I've not seen one that automatically trawls your database and gets the most distant ancestors from each branch. I have however got a "treetops" report on my list of things to add to my FT Analysis program I'm writing. This little program takes a Gedcom 5.0 or 5.5 file and produces various reports. At present they are lists of "loose deaths" (people who you know death information for but their death entry hasn't got that data explicitly recorded), lists of locations sorted by country, region(county/state), parish etc. Lists of people at those locations. Lists of people who according to your Gedcom may have been alive at a specific date but for whom you have no census info. This is particularly useful for remembering to add people to http://www.lostcousins.com etc. A "treetops" report is on my to do list this is a list of all the people who are direct ancestors at the top of your tree. Effectively a treetops report would list all of your most distant direct ancestors you have found for every branch of your tree. This would not do what the original poster asked but it might at least make the process of producing the manual reports somewhat easier as you'd have a list of who to start your reports from. -- Alexander Bisset IT Administrator Aberdeen Harbour Board -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Forsberg Sent: 10 March 2010 01:47 To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software Hi all, I have the PAF 5 version and it works just fine - will do all you ask. This is free from the IGI. I am running on a older version of Windows (can't remember what it is called - a "senior's moment" I'm afraid). It is not Vista - the one before it. PAF 5 and its upgrades will produce beautiful "modified registers" for anyone in the database. Cheers, Carol On 10 March 2010 09:59, Gordon McLeod <gordon@shieldaig.com> wrote: > One thing to consider, whichever, software you use is whether or not your > Windows operating system is 64bit or 32bit.  Many of the older programs work > if you installed or had installed Windows 7 32bit but don't worked at all if > you install Windows 7 64bit. > > Gordon > > -----Original Message----- > From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Isobel Davidson > Sent: March-09-10 3:34 PM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > I have windows 7 and, because I have never liked FTM2008 tried the previous > version first - which doesn't work on vista.  Works perfectly on Windows 7 > so I am now very happy! > > Isobel > > -----Original Message----- > From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of ann zeman > Sent: 09 March 2010 21:57 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > I just got a new laptop with Windows 7; found my Family Tree Maker software > wasn't compatible; contacted the FTM company to see if there was a software > patch; NO, there wasn't. I had to buy a new Family Tree Maker, which I > installed, However! It won't open any of my old FTM files. > Big sigh. I have to wait to have a free 4 or 5 hours (and a quiet mind) to > try to phone FTM back and see if there's a solution. Isn't technology > interesting. > Ann Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M Keith Abel" <kabel@kingston.net> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > >> Dear Colin: >> >> I am using a program which will do exactly as you describe but I suspect >> it >> is all obsolete now.  The Genealogy Program was Personal Ancestral File >> Version 2.3 >> >> A program called "Pafability" written by an American Woman,   I believe in >> Washington DC,   was capable of reading the files produced by PAF 3 and >> assembling fully and beautifully worded reports beginning with anyone of >> your choosing.   Unfortunately Paf 3 would not work with any version of >> Windows and as far as I know, the versions of PAF that do work with >> Windows >> have a different File Structure and don't work with Pafability. >> >> A complication of my own:   the printer that works on the computer with my >> genealogy program has gone into a sulk and won't print anything.  I think >> all it needs is a cleaning out but I haven't found anyone to clean out an >> antique printer. >> >> Perhaps someone out there knows if the newer versions of PAF that operate >> with Windows have the very fine report generating capability that >> "Pafability" had. >> >> M Keith Abel >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Colin Speed" <colin@caspeed.co.uk> >> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com>; <angus@rootsweb.com>; <sct-fife@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:51 PM >> Subject: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software >> >> >> > Some years ago I had a family tree program which could generate >> > descendant >> > reports for my entire database automatically. 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Alexander Bisset A-Bisset@aberdeen-harbour.co.uk wrote: << ....the original poster DID NOT ASK for something that can take anyone you choose and produce a descendant tree, almost all FT programs can do that. What he asked was a program that searched ALL of your most distant ancestors and produced a report for the lot of them in one go. That is radically different from MANUALLY searching for the top of each tree and MANUALLY clicking to produce a descendant report for each line. Sadly I know of no such program. .....>> I suggest anyone interested in such a program have a look at what is offered at www.spansoft.org This Scottish genealogy software company offer two programs (Kith & Kin and TreeDraw). K&K will take a gedcom as input and construct a database grapically represented as a family-name tree for each family listed. TD imports its data from K&K and draws various charts starting with a chosen individual (mainly descendant and ancestor charts). If that isn't clear enough it will become clearer when examining the program.  I'm not claiming that this pair of programs will 'tick all your boxes', all I'm saying is that I have used them for many years now through all their development and have yet to hear of anything better for the price. SpanSoft offer downloadable trial copies of both programs.  Cheers, Sandy

Hello, Legacy will do a "treetops" report. For anybody who has a package that allows users to write their own queries , a good starting point query would be something like - "Find all of the people in the database who have no parents" - Depending upon the structure of the database, this could be easy or difficult, you could add some refinements for your own particular database, however what I've suggested should give a good starting point. Regards Bill On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Alexander Bisset <A-Bisset@aberdeen-harbour.co.uk> wrote: > > I have however got a "treetops" report on my list of things to add to my FT Analysis program I'm writing. This little program takes a Gedcom 5.0 or 5.5 file and produces various reports. At present they are lists of "loose deaths" (people who you know death information for but their death entry hasn't got that data explicitly recorded), lists of locations sorted by country, region(county/state), parish etc. Lists of people at those locations. Lists of people who according to your Gedcom may have been alive at a specific date but for whom you have no census info. This is particularly useful for remembering to add people to http://www.lostcousins.com etc. > > A "treetops" report is on my to do list this is a list of all the people who are direct ancestors at the top of your tree. Effectively a treetops report would list all of your most distant direct ancestors you have found for every branch of your tree. This would not do what the original poster asked but it might at least make the process of producing the manual reports somewhat easier as you'd have a list of who to start your reports from. > > -- > Alexander Bisset > IT Administrator Aberdeen Harbour Board > > -----Original Message----- > From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Forsberg > Sent: 10 March 2010 01:47 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > Hi all, > > I have the  PAF 5 version and it works just fine - will do all you > ask.  This is free from the IGI.  I am running on a older version of > Windows (can't remember what it is called - a "senior's moment" I'm > afraid).  It is not Vista - the one before it.  PAF 5 and its upgrades > will produce beautiful "modified registers" for anyone in the > database. > > Cheers, > > Carol > > On 10 March 2010 09:59, Gordon McLeod <gordon@shieldaig.com> wrote: >> One thing to consider, whichever, software you use is whether or not your >> Windows operating system is 64bit or 32bit.  Many of the older programs work >> if you installed or had installed Windows 7 32bit but don't worked at all if >> you install Windows 7 64bit. >> >> Gordon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Isobel Davidson >> Sent: March-09-10 3:34 PM >> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software >> >> I have windows 7 and, because I have never liked FTM2008 tried the previous >> version first - which doesn't work on vista.  Works perfectly on Windows 7 >> so I am now very happy! >> >> Isobel >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of ann zeman >> Sent: 09 March 2010 21:57 >> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software >> >> I just got a new laptop with Windows 7; found my Family Tree Maker software >> wasn't compatible; contacted the FTM company to see if there was a software >> patch; NO, there wasn't. I had to buy a new Family Tree Maker, which I >> installed, However! It won't open any of my old FTM files. >> Big sigh. I have to wait to have a free 4 or 5 hours (and a quiet mind) to >> try to phone FTM back and see if there's a solution. Isn't technology >> interesting. >> Ann Z >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "M Keith Abel" <kabel@kingston.net> >> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software >> >> >>> Dear Colin: >>> >>> I am using a program which will do exactly as you describe but I suspect >>> it >>> is all obsolete now.  The Genealogy Program was Personal Ancestral File >>> Version 2.3 >>> >>> A program called "Pafability" written by an American Woman,   I believe in >>> Washington DC,   was capable of reading the files produced by PAF 3 and >>> assembling fully and beautifully worded reports beginning with anyone of >>> your choosing.   Unfortunately Paf 3 would not work with any version of >>> Windows and as far as I know, the versions of PAF that do work with >>> Windows >>> have a different File Structure and don't work with Pafability. >>> >>> A complication of my own:   the printer that works on the computer with my >>> genealogy program has gone into a sulk and won't print anything.  I think >>> all it needs is a cleaning out but I haven't found anyone to clean out an >>> antique printer. >>> >>> Perhaps someone out there knows if the newer versions of PAF that operate >>> with Windows have the very fine report generating capability that >>> "Pafability" had. >>> >>> M Keith Abel >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Colin Speed" <colin@caspeed.co.uk> >>> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com>; <angus@rootsweb.com>; <sct-fife@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:51 PM >>> Subject: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software >>> >>> >>> > Some years ago I had a family tree program which could generate >>> > descendant >>> > reports for my entire database automatically. That is to say that it >>> > would >>> > analyse the database and work out the oldest memn=bers of each line, >>> > then >>> > start a new chapter for that line. >>> > >>> > Is there any existing program which will do this nowadays, preferrable >>> > not >>> > too expensive. 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