No idea, but my 'take' on it would be they aren't needed to go there, except to identify a person. Passports are now required to enter all countries. l'm pretty sure if I decided to move to Scotland I could do that. They'd ask for a passport when I arrive but only to prove who I am and for ID purposes. I wouldn't have to become a 'citizen' of Scotland because I am a British subject. But this wouldn't apply if I wanted to move to the US. The paper work is much heavier to do that. I'm not a lawyer but I know that (God forbid this would happen at my age) if I moved to the States and married an American, my children, at age 21, would have the right to choose their citizenship or could retain dual citizenship. I have a step brother who is born in Canada and that was his situation. But things change and I don't know for sure the answer to this one. Canada, Britain, Australia, NZ, and others are members of the Commonwealth and British Subjects, and we can come and go as we please in the other countries, except as I said, we need a passport to prove who we are and where we are from. Further, I don't think, again as example; if I decided to go to Scotland and stay 6 or more months anyone there would bother with me. (Canada Pension would be after me because they don't want you out of the country longer than 6 months to collect it). But that wouldn't apply if I went to the States, I think 3 months is the limit and someone would be after me. This is only my opinion, I have no idea of the legalities of it all. Should I try to move to Scotland and see? LOL, Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken May" <jean-ken@xtra.co.nz> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] RE-LEGAL NAME Goldie said... "He did not need a passport to come from Scotland to Canada he was a British subject"... Thank you Goldie for that piece of information. I don't suppose you know when passports became compulsory for British subjects who came Canada? I have to search for some of my wifes relatives who travelled between Scotland and Canada and back again between 1912 and 1928. If I could nail down exactly when passports were introduced it could save me a lot of time trying to find things that may not exist. Than you again for that info. Ken NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Canadians are Canadian citizens and not British subjects. And you do need a passport to go to Britain or any part of it. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:10 PM, goldie and Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca>wrote: > No idea, but my 'take' on it would be they aren't needed to go there, > except > to identify a person. Passports are now required to enter all countries. > l'm pretty sure if I decided to move to Scotland I could do that. They'd > ask for a passport when I arrive but only to prove who I am and for ID > purposes. I wouldn't have to become a 'citizen' of Scotland because I am a > British subject. But this wouldn't apply if I wanted to move to the US. > The paper work is much heavier to do that. I'm not a lawyer but I know > that > (God forbid this would happen at my age) if I moved to the States and > married an American, my children, at age 21, would have the right to choose > their citizenship or could retain dual citizenship. I have a step brother > who is born in Canada and that was his situation. But things change and I > don't know for sure the answer to this one. Canada, Britain, Australia, > NZ, > and others are members of the Commonwealth and British Subjects, and we can > come and go as we please in the other countries, except as I said, we need > a > passport to prove who we are and where we are from. Further, I don't > think, > again as example; if I decided to go to Scotland and stay 6 or more months > anyone there would bother with me. (Canada Pension would be after me > because they don't want you out of the country longer than 6 months to > collect it). But that wouldn't apply if I went to the States, I think 3 > months is the limit and someone would be after me. This is only my > opinion, > I have no idea of the legalities of it all. Should I try to move to > Scotland and see? LOL, Goldie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken May" <jean-ken@xtra.co.nz> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] RE-LEGAL NAME > > > Goldie said... "He did not need a passport to come from Scotland to Canada > he was a British subject"... > > Thank you Goldie for that piece of information. I don't suppose you know > when passports became compulsory for British subjects who came Canada? > > I have to search for some of my wifes relatives who travelled between > Scotland and Canada and back again between 1912 and 1928. If I could nail > down exactly when passports were introduced it could save me a lot of time > trying to find things that may not exist. > > Than you again for that info. > > Ken > NZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

goldie and Lido Doratti wrote: > ... > l'm pretty sure if I decided to move to Scotland I could do that. If you mean "go and take up permanent residence" then it is not certain that you could. The rules on immigration were made much more restrictive around 30 years ago, and (while I cannot give you precise legal chapter and verse) I rather think that citizens of Commonwealth countries (such as Canada) have the automatic right to take up residence in the UK only if they have at least one parent who was actually born in the UK. Otherwise, they are subject to the same immigration restrictions as other non-EU citizens. Gavin Bell