He didn't need a passport to come from Scotland to Canada, he was a British subject. The trick would be to see if you can find the ship he came to Canada on, which would possibly help you. Also check the 1911 census at Automated Genealogy for Canada. His attestation papers should also give the place he was living, so that would be where you would likely find him living. I need to claify that last statement......if he lived in a rural area he likely would have gone to a larger city to sign up. But the papers should give his home address.....then look on the 1911 for him in that province. I would doubt he legally had his name changed in those days. Goldie in Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MISS ADELINE MARTIN" <martin8118@sbcglobal.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: [ABERDEEN] LEGAL NAME CHANGE Hello Can anyone tell me where I can find a record of a legal name change if there was one. I have a Charles George Gray Somors Illegitimate son of Catherine Somors born in Edinburgh on April 28,1876. In the 1881 census he is living with his grandparents in Kelso under the name of Charles S.Gray.In the 1891 census he is listed as Charles Summers.I have not been able to track him for a number of years until a few days ago I found that he joined the Canadian Army on Dec.6,1915 and he was married to a Mary ?. I now have a marriage Reg. from Scotlandspeople 1906 for a Charles John Summers with his parents being John Summers (his Grandfather's name) and Catherine Summers ms Martin,(his Grandmothers name was Rose Summers ms Martin) married to a Mary Kennedy.His Occupation was the same as in his Army join-up papers so I am sure that I have the right marriage. I am trying to find out if he had to legally change the George part of his name and also the spelling of his Surname to get a passport go to Canada. I will be grateful for any info. that I can get as his mother Catherine was my Gt.Grandmother's sister Adeline Martin Ct. U.S.A. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, As far as I am aware there is no requirement in Scotland to legally record a name change and I believe it has been ever thus (well, for as far back as we have records, maybe!). I understand that a relatively recent introduction is the register of name changes which those whose birth was registered or who was legally adopted in Scotland can use if they want a formal record. Info here http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/regscot/change-of-name.html HTH Pat "Here's tae us! Wha's like us? Damn few! - an' they're a' deid!" Old Scots Toast -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of goldie and Lido Doratti Sent: 23 January 2010 18:59 To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] LEGAL NAME CHANGE He didn't need a passport to come from Scotland to Canada, he was a British subject. The trick would be to see if you can find the ship he came to Canada on, which would possibly help you. Also check the 1911 census at Automated Genealogy for Canada. His attestation papers should also give the place he was living, so that would be where you would likely find him living. I need to claify that last statement......if he lived in a rural area he likely would have gone to a larger city to sign up. But the papers should give his home address.....then look on the 1911 for him in that province. I would doubt he legally had his name changed in those days. Goldie in Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MISS ADELINE MARTIN" <martin8118@sbcglobal.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: [ABERDEEN] LEGAL NAME CHANGE Hello Can anyone tell me where I can find a record of a legal name change if there was one. I have a Charles George Gray Somors Illegitimate son of Catherine Somors born in Edinburgh on April 28,1876. In the 1881 census he is living with his grandparents in Kelso under the name of Charles S.Gray.In the 1891 census he is listed as Charles Summers.I have not been able to track him for a number of years until a few days ago I found that he joined the Canadian Army on Dec.6,1915 and he was married to a Mary ?. I now have a marriage Reg. from Scotlandspeople 1906 for a Charles John Summers with his parents being John Summers (his Grandfather's name) and Catherine Summers ms Martin,(his Grandmothers name was Rose Summers ms Martin) married to a Mary Kennedy.His Occupation was the same as in his Army join-up papers so I am sure that I have the right marriage. I am trying to find out if he had to legally change the George part of his name and also the spelling of his Surname to get a passport go to Canada. I will be grateful for any info. that I can get as his mother Catherine was my Gt.Grandmother's sister Adeline Martin Ct. U.S.A. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Adeline: When Goldie says that "I would doubt he legally had his name changed in those days" I believe she means that people happily adopted name changes on their own without legal papers to substantiate the change. It seems to have been perfectly legal in those days. Spellings of names from a good many countries proved to be too difficult for English tongues, or resembled English words of questionable use for names. People changed them regularly and quite arbitrarily. If you can manage the trip, it would be worth your while to visit the Canadian Archives in Ottawa. You will find the most remarkably complete record of all persons who ever served in an army in Canada beginning with the early French period all on Microfilm. It is some time since I studied these films and I don't know if you can find someone in Ottawa to do a search for you. M Keith Abel ----- Original Message ----- From: "goldie and Lido Doratti" <lidogold2@shaw.ca> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] LEGAL NAME CHANGE [abridged] I would doubt he legally had his name changed in those days. > Goldie in Canada. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MISS ADELINE MARTIN" <martin8118@sbcglobal.net> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:25 AM > Subject: [ABERDEEN] LEGAL NAME CHANGE > > > > Hello > > Can anyone tell me where I can find a record of a legal name change if > there > was one. > > I have a Charles George Gray Somors Illegitimate son of Catherine Somors > born in Edinburgh on April 28,1876. In the 1881 census he is living with > his > grandparents in > Kelso under the name of Charles S.Gray.In the 1891 census he is listed as > Charles Summers.I have not been able to track him for a number of years > until a few days ago > I found that he joined the Canadian Army on Dec.6,1915 and he was married > to > a Mary ?. I now have a marriage Reg. from Scotlandspeople 1906 for a > Charles > John Summers with his parents being John Summers (his Grandfather's name) > and Catherine Summers ms Martin,(his Grandmothers name was Rose Summers ms > Martin) married to a Mary Kennedy.His Occupation was the same as in his > Army > join-up papers so I am sure that I have the right marriage. > I am trying to find out if he had to legally change the George part of his > name and also the spelling of his Surname to get a passport go to Canada. > > I will be grateful for any info. that I can get as his mother Catherine > was > my Gt.Grandmother's sister > > Adeline Martin > Ct. U.S.A. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >