Hello, everyone: I've found a transcription on Ancestry.com and believe it's wrong, but without the actual image, cannot confirm it. 1901 census living on Charlotte St., Fraserburg, household #202. Transcription says: Christian Nicol, 42, b. Longside Elisa Nicol, 23, b. Savoch relationship = daughter If some kind soul has access to the actual image, would you please check Christian Nicol's age for me. If she is mother to Eliza, her age should be about 71. If she is instead Eliza's older sister Christian, her age would be 55 [and she'd be low-balling her age as 42]. I want to confirm that Christian Nicol b. Longside 1830 is still alive in 1901. Thank you for your help, Lynne

Lynne Uhler wrote: > Hello, everyone: > > I've found a transcription on Ancestry.com and believe it's wrong, but > without the actual image, cannot confirm it. 1901 census living on > Charlotte St., Fraserburg, household #202. Transcription says: > Christian Nicol, 42, b. Longside > Elisa Nicol, 23, b. Savoch > relationship = daughter > > Hi Lynne, I've looked at the image online using my tv as the monitor so I could get the largest image possible and, unquestionably, it says 42. There is another Christian Nicol on Charlotte Street, aged 7?, can't tell exactly what, but she was born in Lonmay. Cheers, David Smith

Thank you very much for checking it for me, David. Lynne David Smith wrote: > Lynne Uhler wrote: > >> Hello, everyone: >> >> I've found a transcription on Ancestry.com and believe it's wrong, but >> without the actual image, cannot confirm it. 1901 census living on >> Charlotte St., Fraserburg, household #202. Transcription says: >> Christian Nicol, 42, b. Longside >> Elisa Nicol, 23, b. Savoch >> relationship = daughter >> >> >> > Hi Lynne, > > I've looked at the image online using my tv as the monitor so I could > get the largest image possible and, unquestionably, it says 42. > There is another Christian Nicol on Charlotte Street, aged 7?, can't > tell exactly what, but she was born in Lonmay. > > > Cheers, > > David Smith > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Lynne Uhler wrote: > Hello, everyone: > > I've found a transcription on Ancestry.com and believe it's wrong, but > without the actual image, cannot confirm it. 1901 census living on > Charlotte St., Fraserburg, household #202. Transcription says: > Christian Nicol, 42, b. Longside > Elisa Nicol, 23, b. Savoch > relationship = daughter > > Hello again Lynne, A further look at the image shows that Eliza was born, according to the census, in Strichen not Savoch. I've double checked and I am looking at household #202. Regards, David

Lynne Uhler wrote: > I've found a transcription on Ancestry.com and believe it's wrong, but > without the actual image, cannot confirm it. 1901 census living on > Charlotte St., Fraserburg, household #202. Transcription says: > Christian Nicol, 42, b. Longside > Elisa Nicol, 23, b. Savoch > relationship = daughter > > If some kind soul has access to the actual image, would you please check > Christian Nicol's age for me. If she is mother to Eliza, her age > should be about 71. If she is instead Eliza's older sister Christian, > her age would be 55 [and she'd be low-balling her age as 42]. Are you sure about that? A mother aged 71 when her daughter was 23 would mean that the daughter was born when the mother was 48 - not impossible, but unlikely. And sisters whose ages differ by 32 years (55 minus 23) is also on the extreme edge of the biologically feasible. I would be more inclined to take the information at face value (even though it is from an Ancestry transcription) namely that Christian named was, indeed, 42, and had, aged 19, borne a daughter now aged 23. There may well be a second "Christian Nichol" aged 71 somewhere, and another aged 55 - the combination of names is unlikely to be unique. > I want to > confirm that Christian Nicol b. Longside 1830 is still alive in 1901. The easiest and most reliable way to confirm the all the relevant relationships would be via Scotlandspeople (which will also give you access to the Census image): (1) If Christian was aged 42 in 1901, then she would have been born in 1858-9, and her birth will be recorded in the Statutory Registers. (2) Elisa's birth will also be recorded, along with the names of her parents. (3) If the Christian who was born in 1830 survived until at least 1855, then her death should also be recorded. Gavin Bell

Thank you, Gavin: Oddly enough, Eliza was born in ~1877 to Christian Murray Nicol [b.1830 in Longside] and her husband, George Nicol [b. 1817 in Logie Buchan] and she was their last child. Eliza was 4 in the 1881 census, 14 in the 1891 census and now '23' on this 1901. Christian Murray Nicol & her husband, George Nicol, also had a daughter Christian, b. ~1847 in Longside. Daughter Christian was 3 on the 1851 census; 13 on the 1861 census, a servant in another household in 1871. Since both mother and daughter Christians were b. Longside and the only person in this constellation with the right age and location is Eliza at age 23, I am hoping to get a glimpse of the original to then make a more educated judgment. Thank you for the suggestion I look on Scotland's People. I understood them to be a subscription site, Lynne Gavin Bell wrote: > Lynne Uhler wrote: > > >> I've found a transcription on Ancestry.com and believe it's wrong, but >> without the actual image, cannot confirm it. 1901 census living on >> Charlotte St., Fraserburg, household #202. Transcription says: >> Christian Nicol, 42, b. Longside >> Elisa Nicol, 23, b. Savoch >> relationship = daughter >> >> If some kind soul has access to the actual image, would you please check >> Christian Nicol's age for me. If she is mother to Eliza, her age >> should be about 71. If she is instead Eliza's older sister Christian, >> her age would be 55 [and she'd be low-balling her age as 42]. >> > > > Are you sure about that? > > A mother aged 71 when her daughter was 23 would mean that the daughter > was born when the mother was 48 - not impossible, but unlikely. > > And sisters whose ages differ by 32 years (55 minus 23) is also on the > extreme edge of the biologically feasible. > > I would be more inclined to take the information at face value (even > though it is from an Ancestry transcription) namely that Christian named > was, indeed, 42, and had, aged 19, borne a daughter now aged 23. There > may well be a second "Christian Nichol" aged 71 somewhere, and another > aged 55 - the combination of names is unlikely to be unique. > > >> I want to >> confirm that Christian Nicol b. Longside 1830 is still alive in 1901. >> > > The easiest and most reliable way to confirm the all the relevant > relationships would be via Scotlandspeople (which will also give you > access to the Census image): > > (1) If Christian was aged 42 in 1901, then she would have been born in > 1858-9, and her birth will be recorded in the Statutory Registers. > > (2) Elisa's birth will also be recorded, along with the names of her > parents. > > (3) If the Christian who was born in 1830 survived until at least 1855, > then her death should also be recorded. > > > Gavin Bell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Lynne Uhler wrote: > Thank you, Gavin: > > Oddly enough, Eliza was born in ~1877 to Christian Murray Nicol > [b.1830 in Longside] and her husband, George Nicol [b. 1817 in Logie > Buchan] and she was their last child. Eliza was 4 in the 1881 > census, 14 in the 1891 census and now '23' on this 1901. Christian > Murray Nicol & her husband, George Nicol, also had a daughter > Christian, b. ~1847 in Longside. Daughter Christian was 3 on the > 1851 census; 13 on the 1861 census, a servant in another household in > 1871. > > Since both mother and daughter Christians were b. Longside and the > only person in this constellation with the right age and location is > Eliza at age 23, I am hoping to get a glimpse of the original to then > make a more educated judgment. > > Thank you for the suggestion I look on Scotland's People. I > understood them to be a subscription site As, I understand, is Ancestry. But Scotlandspeople is the online agent of the Registrar General for Scotland, who holds all the original records of births, deaths and marriages, and the originals of all the Censuses. Their indexes are also a great deal more reliable than Ancestry's, and for Scottish records from 1855 on, they are really the only place worth looking. Gavin Bell