Hi again Jenny My lad has let me know that the James and Norman GRANT on the Ellon MI are listed as Norman MELDRUM's grandsons ["died in infancy"] but doesn't say if they died in Australia or in the UK where they aren't registered. I haven't found the passenger list for the "Bloomer" on which James GRANT & Margaret MELDRUM sailed from Liverpool 20 July 1854 so don't know if they took any children with them. -- Best wishes Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP **********************************************************

Hi Ray The link below will take you to an index to Assisted Immigration to Victoria. Just enter the name of the ship, Bloomer, and year 1854, This will give you a list of passengers on arrival including James & Margaret GRANT. http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24 Curiously the Unassisted Inward Passenger List to Victoria has the Bloomer arriving in August 1854 and this has a Geo GRANT age 25. It would be necessary to look at the actual passenger lists to work out whats going on. I'm not sure whether a ship carried both Assisted and Unassisted Migrants, if it did then there would be 2 lists but they should have the same date. It may be a transcription error. http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23 Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:35 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] DEATH REG. GRANT Australia > Hi again Jenny > > My lad has let me know that the James and Norman GRANT on the Ellon MI > are listed as Norman MELDRUM's grandsons ["died in infancy"] but > doesn't say if they died in Australia or in the UK where they aren't > registered. > > I haven't found the passenger list for the "Bloomer" on which James > GRANT & Margaret MELDRUM sailed from Liverpool 20 July 1854 so don't > know if they took any children with them. > > -- > Best wishes > > Ray >

On 24 February 2010 23:42, Andy Candlish <andycandlish@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > The link below will take you to an index to Assisted Immigration to Victoria. Just enter the name of the ship, Bloomer, and year 1854, This will give you a list of passengers on arrival including James & Margaret GRANT. > > http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24 > > Curiously the Unassisted Inward Passenger List to Victoria has the Bloomer arriving in August 1854 and this has a Geo GRANT age 25. It would be necessary to look at the actual passenger lists to work out whats going on. I'm not sure whether a ship carried both Assisted and Unassisted Migrants, if it did then there would be 2 lists but they should have the same date. It may be a transcription error. > > http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23 _______________________________ Thanks Andy. These are very useful Immigration records. The difference in arrival dates of James [aged 24] & Margaret [23] in November and George [25] in August 1854 is a bit odd. Am I right to suppose that Bloomer was unlikely to have arrived twice 3 months apart - or am I being naive and the passenger ships could make journeys that frequently?? There is a James who would be exactly the right age, christened 1.1.1830 so born at the end of 1829. He has an older sister, Anne, in 1825 and a younger brother, Hugh, in 1835, parents James GRANT and Anne HARPER, parish Birse. It looks very likely that this is the right James GRANT although without digging further, this may not be true. If this is James GRANT who went to Australia, then George GRANT does not appear to be related to him as there is no record of him in the IGI. There are several George GRANT births around 1827-1831 but none of them have the same parents nor are they born in the same parish. Gwen WARNE who supplied the initial data in 1990 didn't have the same information about James's parentage. She suggests his father was Alexander GRANT [no details] - presumably from James's 1901 Death Certificate?. She had Margaret MELDRUM's parents & grandparents correctly but they may have been easier to find. I don't know what researching was like 20 years ago but I doubt it was as easy as it is [sometimes] today. -- Best wishes & thanks again. Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP **********************************************************