And to you, Les, thank you... ----- Original Message ----- From: <aberdeen-request@rootsweb.com> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:00 AM Subject: ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 232 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Nolliag Chridheil agus bliadhna mhath ur > (leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 01:59:04 +0000 > From: leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Nolliag Chridheil agus bliadhna mhath ur > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com, aberdeen@rootsweb.com, > sct-argyll@rootsweb.com, sct-arg-coll@rootsweb.com, > dunbartonshire-genweb@rootsweb.com, "Ian Phillips" > <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> > Message-ID: > <652960298-1387850344-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-497153398-@b16.c6.bise7.blackberry> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone. Hope you all have > success in breaking down your Brick Walls in 2014. > > Regards > Les > Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ABERDEEN list administrator, send an email to > ABERDEEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ABERDEEN mailing list, send an email to > ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 232 > ****************************************

A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone. Hope you all have success in breaking down your Brick Walls in 2014. Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Hi Thanks for the information.  I had found the Oliver book on-line and there is also a second one of More M I's for the W I. Regards Liz On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:04:12 AM, "aberdeen-request@rootsweb.com" <aberdeen-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Today's Topics:   1. Re: ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 229 (John Urie) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:17:12 +0000 From: John Urie <johnaurie@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 229 To: "aberdeen@rootsweb.com" <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DUB121-W468DAB7164905DBEC76B93A6D30@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" https://archive.org/stream/monumentalinscri00olivrich#page/10/mode/2up You will find the book online at above link where you can read it > There is also a book of MI's for Bermuda, but it has to be purchased. ?Does anyone own a copy who would be willing to do one look-up? > >                         ------------------------------ To contact the ABERDEEN list administrator, send an email to ABERDEEN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ABERDEEN mailing list, send an email to ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 230 ****************************************

https://archive.org/stream/monumentalinscri00olivrich#page/10/mode/2up You will find the book online at above link where you can read it > There is also a book of MI's for Bermuda, but it has to be purchased. ?Does anyone own a copy who would be willing to do one look-up? > >

Liza Stuart wrote I have a relative who was with the British Army in the West Indies from 1811-1815. I have his papers. The time he spent in the West Indies was only counted as half of the actual time spent there. I found this with another relative as well. I have an Irish ancestor who served in the West Indies in the early 1800's and the total length of service from enlistment to discharge was 16 years and 259 days and of this he spent 11 years and 340 days in the West Indies. However, he received a further 5 years 352 days service making a pensionable service of 22 years 246 days which entitled him to a pension from Kilmainham (later transferred to Chelsea). 50% was added to all service in the Tropics. A pension was only awarded for pensionable service over 20 years. A suspected brother also served in the army at this time but was in the East Indies and a similar 50% was added to his pensionable service. Richard

To add to the exercise Les has carried out and posted here, a cousin of mine in Montrose, Angus married a lady there in 1853 who was born in Armagh in 1837. Having "Black's" would be invaluable but pursuing Parish records and lair details also might produce more information about origins, if they could afford a headstone. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> George asked )Since I have found the name in the OPR's of Banff and Aberdeen I am assuming that this is likely the area where he came from? Analysis of the 1841, 1861 and 1881 Censuses shows the following distribution of TAWSE: 1841 total 115 Aberdeenshire. 75 Aberdeen City. 9 Angus/Forfar. 1 Edinburgh City. 16 Kincardine. 13 Perthshire. 1 1861 total 167 Aberdeenshire. 84 Aberdeen City. 44 Angus/Forfar. 5 Dundee City. 4 Edinburgh City. 13 Fife. 3 Glasgow City. 2 Kincardine. 11 1881 total 284 Aberdeenshire. 135 Aberdeen City. 70 Angus/Forfar. 14 Dundee City. 6 Fife. 6 Glasgow City. 5 Inverness-shire. 1 Kincardine. 26 Midlothian. 3 Perthshire. 1 Ross & Cromarty. 1 In 1901 there were 270 of which 71 were in Aberdeen City and 102 in Aberdeenshire Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Further to my previous in which I looked at the usual/expected spelling TAWSE there are far less spelling their name TAWES: 1841 - 20 of which 7 are in Aberdeen City and 7 in Aberdeenshire 1861 - 7 of which 3 are in Aberdeenshire 1881 - 7 of which 1 is in Aberdeen City and 5 in Aberdeenshire Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

George asked )Since I have found the name in the OPR's of Banff and Aberdeen I am assuming that this is likely the area where he came from? Analysis of the 1841, 1861 and 1881 Censuses shows the following distribution of TAWSE: 1841 total 115 Aberdeenshire. 75 Aberdeen City. 9 Angus/Forfar. 1 Edinburgh City. 16 Kincardine. 13 Perthshire. 1 1861 total 167 Aberdeenshire. 84 Aberdeen City. 44 Angus/Forfar. 5 Dundee City. 4 Edinburgh City. 13 Fife. 3 Glasgow City. 2 Kincardine. 11 1881 total 284 Aberdeenshire. 135 Aberdeen City. 70 Angus/Forfar. 14 Dundee City. 6 Fife. 6 Glasgow City. 5 Inverness-shire. 1 Kincardine. 26 Midlothian. 3 Perthshire. 1 Ross & Cromarty. 1 In 1901 there were 270 of which 71 were in Aberdeen City and 102 in Aberdeenshire Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

My Tawes ancestors are now living in Guelph, Ontario/Wellington County having moved from Aberfeldy area of Scotland. Gordon -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of George Tawes Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 7:47 PM To: ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [ABERDEEN] TAWES Ray, My earliest known Tawes ancestor first appeared in the Pocomoke hundred of Somerset County, Colony (now state) of Maryland about 1740 and I believe may have been indentured to a Porter. I do not know who his parents were our where they were from. Since I have found the name in the OPR's of Banff and Aberdeen I am assuming that this is likely the area where he came from? George D. Tawes ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6896 - Release Date: 12/06/13

Hi all, Re:  Only half time credited to Br. soldiers for posting to the West Indies.   I have a relative who was with the British Army in the West Indies from 1811-1815.  I have his  papers.  The time he spent in the West Indies was only counted as half of the actual time spent there.  I found this with another relative as well. Does anyone know why they did this.  This was a very difficult posting and many died from disease. If anyone is interested and hasn't found it, there is a list of MI's for the Islands available on-line, it says Barbados but it includes others.  What I found interesting was that there were a number of jacobite style monuments - perhaps due to the jacobite prisoners sent to the islands.    The Monumental Inscriptions in the Churches and Churchyards of the Island of Barbados, British West Indies, London: 1915. Oliver, Vere Langford ed.  There is also a book of MI's for Bermuda, but it has to be purchased.  Does anyone own a copy who would be willing to do one look-up? Thanks for any help with this Liz

On 07/12/2013 02:47, George Tawes wrote: > > My earliest known Tawes ancestor first appeared in the Pocomoke hundred > of > > Somerset County, Colony (now state) of Maryland about 1740 and I believe > > may have been indentured to a Porter. I do not know who his parents > were our > > where they were from. Since I have found the name in the OPR's of Banff > and > > Aberdeen I am assuming that this is likely the area where he came from? Black's "Surnames of Scotland" suggests that the surname TAWS/TAWSE is derived from the Gaelic 'Tamhas' or Thomas, so could well have come into existence anywhere in Scotland. Gavin Bell

Georgia, I am researching Cruden. Please email me and see if we connect. My Dad was born in Aberdeen. He came to the US when he was 7. Lois Cruden Yunker ljy@nycap.rr.com On 12/16/2007 10:03 PM, Georgia Clements wrote: > Sharon re Murison family. Do you think this might be Cumming > > 1881 Census > Dwelling: 2 Canal Terrace > Census Place: Aberdeen St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203445 GRO Ref Volume 168-1 EnumDist 43 > Page 3 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Cumine MURISON M 25 M Inverurie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Railway Porter > Hannah MURISON M 20 F England > Rel: Wife > Occ: Railway Porter Wife > Robert MURISON 5 m M Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland > Rel: Son > > Georgia > also researching Murison & Cruden. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ray, My earliest known Tawes ancestor first appeared in the Pocomoke hundred of Somerset County, Colony (now state) of Maryland about 1740 and I believe may have been indentured to a Porter. I do not know who his parents were our where they were from. Since I have found the name in the OPR's of Banff and Aberdeen I am assuming that this is likely the area where he came from? George D. Tawes

Several members of this family emigrated from Aberdeenshire to Ontario, Canada in the 1840's, while some remained on in Scotland. I would be very interested in comparing notes with any family historian, particularly one still resident in Scotland, Wayne -- *Wayne Wickson* BA, MEd [Wickson Family Historian] (613) 966-7535 wickson.genealogy@gmail.com

Hi George We were researching for an Alexander SHIRRAN for some time and thought there might be a link to one of that name married to a Jessie TAWSE. As it turned out he wasn't one of ours as far as we can tell. There were some glitches int he Scotland's People indexes so finding them was confused [to say the least]. She died around the beginning of the 20th century. I would have to search through out redundant file to difg out the details. Are you interested? Regards Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net On 5 December 2013 20:00, George Tawes <gdtawes@charter.net> wrote: > Is there anyone out there researching TAWES? > > > > George D. Tawes > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is there anyone out there researching TAWES? George D. Tawes

Hi Ray We have relocated to Pennsylvania, the suburbs of Philadelphia to be precise. My husband is half-American so it's a return for him (though he is not from Pennsylvania). He has been to all but two states (he's missing Alaska and Wyoming) and I have just under half to visit to have the full set of 50. We cannot wait to embark on our first family road trip. The relocation means I can also delve deeper into my Great-Grandfather's life (he emigrated from Shetland to New Jersey) and also do more hands-on exploring of my husband's ancestry. He's a Mayflower descendant so there is lots to explore. Best wishes Laura > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 00:19:48 +0000 > From: ray@whatsinaname.net > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO > > Thanks laura > > It was a forlorn hope as the DALGARNO/DALGARDNO/DALGARDEN lines are very > numerous but not too well documented so I have little hope at the moment of > finding my way past 1803/4 [approx] > > Don't worry about delays - they are quite common in this research. We have > a 6 month hiatus in our MELDRUM researches at the moment and Sheena's fifth > cousin is getting a bit impatient! We have too many doctors & hospital > appointments at the moment to be able to keep up with family history on a > day to day basis. Even month to month is a bit of a challenge. > > Hope you enjoy your transfer to the wide blue yonder. Which part are you > going to? We have been over there 5 times to many different parts and > enjoyed every minute of it. We were always being told we had seen more of > the States than the natives [who are not renowned for travelling - G W Bush > didn't even have a passport when elected!] > > But I bet you'll miss Scotland. Have a great time/life there. > > Best wishes > > Ray > > Ray Hennessy > www.whatsinaname.net > > > On 23 November 2013 16:52, Laura Dalgarno-Platt <peeriegems@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > > > Hi Ray > > A caveat to my reply is that I have, within the last five weeks, emigrated > > from Scotland to America so all of my family history records and my > > computer are all on a shipping container and I have no access to them. > > (Don't worry: I have the files all backed up on memory sticks). That > > means I do not have access to all of my information right now. However, I > > am pretty confident that my line (as I have it so far) does not include > > William Dalgarden (actually a variation on the surname I have not stumbled > > across before) or Margaret Runciman. While I am sure all the Dalgarnos > > will connect at some point in history, my own tree is not far enough back > > to have reached that point yet. My furthest back ancestor on that line is > > Andrew DALGAR(D)NO who married Isabell HUTCHEN in 1767. > > Sorry to be no help whatsoever. Rootsweb does have a DALGARNO page you > > might want to join so you can connect with other researchers, just in case > > you are not already a member of that list. > > Best wishes > > Laura > > > > PS Apologies for the delay in replying. I keep this email address just > > for family history purposes and, since I have no ability to research right > > now, I have not been accessing it very frequently. > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:54:07 +0100 > > > From: ray@whatsinaname.net > > > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO > > > > > > On 13 October 2013 09:17, Laura Dalgarno-Platt <peeriegems@hotmail.co.uk > > >wrote: > > > > > > > There are a lot of female Christians in the Shetland part of my family > > > > tree and most of those used Christian and Christina interchangeably. > > > > Laura Dalgarno-Platt > > > > > > > > Hi Laura > > > > > > I have noted your comment about Christina being interchangeable with > > female > > > Christian but I am writing as I am intrigued by your surname. > > > > > > My wife's family line includes some DALGARNOs but we are having some > > > difficulty determining which ones they are. Margret DALGARNO married > > > Norman MELDRUM in Aberdeen St Nicholas on 4 August 1828. We know a lot > > > about his ancestors and about a hundred descendants. > > > > > > However all we know about Margaret is that she was born in Aberdeen > > around > > > 1805 and her parents were William DALGARDEN and Margaret RUNCIMAN, > > married > > > in Old Machar on 13 November 1796. > > > > > > I have not been able to trace William DALGARDEN/DALGARNO's parents and > > > wonder if you have any further information. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Ray Hennessy > > > www.whatsinaname.net > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joe, I have used Parloc on a PC at the FHC, and found it useful. At home I use Mac. I like being able to see the satellite image of the land on Google, actually see the distance between parishes, and see what geological features lie between them, if any. Both tools are useful in their own way. Venita On Nov 30, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Joe Bissett <jbissett@hot-peppers.com> wrote: > Hi Venita, > > On 11/30/2013 11:10 AM, Venita wrote: >> I regularly use them to judge distance between parishes, find parish churches, > > In addition to my cousin's program, I have been using the free Parish > Locator program for years, and I love it. > > http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ParLocDL.html > > Apparently this is a newer version, so I will have to check it out > myself. ParLoc is great for giving distances between parishes, and one > can plot out a circle for a given radius around a given parish, which > shows all of the parishes within that radius. My old version does not > use an actual map overlay, so unless the new version now does that, I > suggest that one use it in conjunction with cousin Alexander's program. > > Regards, Joe > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cousin Joe, The new version of Parloc is just a database update there have been no changes to the Parloc program since September 2009. Since my FT Analyzer can display parish boundary maps overlaid on a modern map I may enquire if he would licence the datafiles to display the parish centres for distance calcs. As it would be fairly easy to replicate his program if he is prepared to licence it on a modern system so that users can use modern maps in addition to the features it provides. NB. the parish map data available from the Ordnance Survey OpenData project is for civil parishes of England and Wales. I do hope to be able to licence the Visions of Britain datasets which would provide access to the first OS map series from the 1800s. Regards,Alexander > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 12:21:08 -0600 > From: jbissett@hot-peppers.com > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Aberdeen street numbers > > Hi Venita, > > On 11/30/2013 11:10 AM, Venita wrote: > > I regularly use them to judge distance between parishes, find parish churches, > > In addition to my cousin's program, I have been using the free Parish > Locator program for years, and I love it. > > http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ParLocDL.html > > Apparently this is a newer version, so I will have to check it out > myself. ParLoc is great for giving distances between parishes, and one > can plot out a circle for a given radius around a given parish, which > shows all of the parishes within that radius. My old version does not > use an actual map overlay, so unless the new version now does that, I > suggest that one use it in conjunction with cousin Alexander's program. > > Regards, Joe > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the update Alexander. I hope you are successful. :-) :-) On 12/1/2013 4:15 AM, Alexander Bisset wrote: > The new version of Parloc is just a database update there have been no changes to the Parloc program since September 2009. Since my FT Analyzer can display parish boundary maps overlaid on a modern map I may enquire if he would licence the datafiles to display the parish centres for distance calcs. As it would be fairly easy to replicate his program if he is prepared to licence it on a modern system so that users can use modern maps in addition to the features it provides. > NB. the parish map data available from the Ordnance Survey OpenData project is for civil parishes of England and Wales. I do hope to be able to licence the Visions of Britain datasets which would provide access to the first OS map series from the 1800s.