On 29/03/2014 21:56, Janet wrote: > It may or may not be pertinent to mention by comparison that GRO, England & > Wales does not allow copy documents to be paid for online in the same way as > Scotland's People. On payment of a fee of £9.25 to GRO one waits for up to 21 > days through the post, or agrees to increase the fee for earlier receipt also > through the post. > > I just wonder if a strong lobby on Bright Solid might push the outcome in a way > that may not be anticipated. > > Scotland's People seemingly has no power to prevent subscribers to Ancestry > uploading Scottish documents for public scrutiny, I think we are fortunate to > be able to purchase online from the Scotland's People, and have the same > assurance as those who purchase from GRO, that a document has not been altered > in any way and can be relied upon. > > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ScotlandsPeople > > > Venita said > >> It’s too bad there isn’t an option for a subscription. I believe it would draw >> more people to the collection if there were. . . Shall we start a campaign? > I'm afraid that SAFHS (Scottish Association of Family History Societies), which > represents the Scottish FHSs, has for years been pressuring GROS (General > Registry Office Scotland) for the introduction of an Annual Subscription to no > avail. Besides being tied by legislation - it is in the will of the Scottish > Parliament to change the legislation - there seems to be little will to > introduce it. > > Of course Brightsolid, in their current guise, who operate SP on behalf of the > Scottish Government would not make as much 'profit' if they introduced it. > Despite this they do have Subscriptions to their other sites eg FindMyPast. > > Regards > Les > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > > Les, there is a campaign and a petition online to open historic registers Please sign the petition at http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 Details of the Campaign to Open Historic Registers http://anguline.co.uk/ohrn.html There has been a long history of support for such changes Lord Teviot (a supporter of the campaign) had a bill passed th the House of Lords in 1983 but unfortunately due to the General Election it was not presented to the House of Commons. In 1999 Keith Darvill had a similar Bill read twice. In 2004 following the 2002 White Paper, the government decided to introduce similar legislation but this was thwarted by the use of the Regulatory Reform system rather than a debate in the Commons to change the legislation. We can achieve change now with support, please sign the petition and if you have an MP who sits in the House of Commons, please write or email him/her ask him/her to support the campaign. Cheers Guy

Thank you, Tom! The fun thing about compiling this history is all the side roads that beckon one to explore. Frendraught is nailed. Then I came across Universal Legatee and Googled it and spent happy hours trolling through some fascinating 18th century court cases... Well, for this old gal, it sure beats putting cash in slots at the casinos! All the best, Sonia -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Graham Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:40 AM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? Maybe it would be FRENDRAUGHT in the parish of Forgue. Only a few miles from Leslie country. Tom On 29 March 2014 22:09, Gilbert Murray <happyman70@cableone.net> wrote: > Hi - I'm transcribing old wills of the Mosquito Shore, for a history, > and cannot identify a place in Aberdeenshire named in a will of 1785. > Can anyone help? > > Here's the entry: > > Black River, Musquito Shore: I, George Alexander of the Shore, > Merchant, in an ill state of health. As soon as convenient after my > decease I desire my Exors residing on the Musquito Shore sell and > dispose of all property I may have on the Shore, the neat proceeds of > which, together with the Debts due me on the Shore as soon as they can > be collected, I desire may be remitted into the hands of my Exor in > Great Britain to be placed at Interest in the Public Funds. I > bequeath to my Honored Mother Jane LESLY, widow of Alexander Alexander > of Frouchaught? in the Parish of Fergey* and shire of Aberdeen in > North Britain... > > Can anyone locate Frouchaught - could be Frourhaught? Fergey? I > suspect Fergey = Fergue. The people are not my ancestors. > > Appreciate your help! > > Sonia Bennett Murray > USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The suggestion in this thread is that Scotland's People could consider offering a subscription. If we are making comparisons, about what is available to us, I dont have an LDS Center anywhere near to where I live and I dont suppose I am the only person in that situation. I would not make comparisons between Scotland's People and Ancestry because with SP and FMP we know we are purchasing a document that hasnt been altered. We dont have that assurance with Ancestry. The way I use my subscription is a means of having an idea about what I am looking for. Ancestry is allowing subscribers to upload Scotland's People certificates. I have had a word with SP about that some time back but apparently its unstoppable. I have not mentioned it for a while. Ancestry is also displaying data in their Births, Christenings, Marriages and Deaths for people who have been born in the last 25 yrs and I dont agree with that. I have proof of it. To clarify the point I made initially it is that we are fortunate to be able to purchase a document online through Scotland's People. It may not always be that way. . Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goldie & Lido Doratti" <lidogold2@shaw.ca> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ScotlandsPeople Yes, but hold the phone here........A film here in Canada (Kamloops) cost about $7/8 to bring in from Salt Lake City. AND I can see the whole book for the effort of going to a LDS FHCenter..make copies and notes. For me on SP it costs about $12 for 30 credits, and IF you play your cards right, you should be able to get 5 marriages or deaths...1 credit to look and 5 to see it. BY far the advantage is the films. However you also need to realize some of the films will have pages copied twice, some are missed; then use SP as backup, if you really can't find the person from beginning to end and think it might have got missed. Scotland has the right to the records, and they have the right to the income they get from it. Bottom line is that when you GO to Scotland you play by their rules not yours. It's like taking a trip to Italy and saying you won't eat Italian food. It would be nice of them, though, IF after you spent say $100 CAD they gave you a few free credits as a regular customer. Like the stores in some places (ahem) do when you spend a set amount. If you can get the films, do it; you can find some hidden items like Mort Cloth rentals, others in the family who married or had children; occasionally stories and sometimes even a death record or even a missed Kirk Session record.......you are WAY further ahead with them. To suggest getting them on Ancestry opens up another can of worms....Ancestry isn't free either, so remember that as well. The $400 or so it costs goes a long way toward films and SP. We need to be thinking 'outside of the box'. Goldie --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

On 29 March 2014 23:06, B&A Smith <brian.alison.smith@gmail.com> wrote: > Frendraught in Forgue > > Alison ================================= Gilbert I agree with Alison. If you look again at the original you may find that "Frouchaught " is actually much closer to Frendraught. The letters: "ouch" in manuscript are easily mistaken for "endr". Equally "Fergy" is very close to "Forgue" in manuscript, even allowing for idiosyncratic spelling. You might be interested that one of Sheena's MELDRUM ancestors was executed for setting fire to Frendraught castle in the early 17thC although he insisted he had been about 10 miles away at the time. The story is on the internet in a number of different variations. Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net

Sunday afternoon here in Kamloops and I'm having a giggle....Had a bad week chasing some McGregors to find out I had to start all over again, but this was a BINGO!! Soon as I saw it I thought 'I know this one"...pat on the back for Goldie...and boy oh boy, do I need it!! Bad week!! Goldie (sorry for tooting my own horn out loud!!) -----Original Message----- From: B&A Smith Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:06 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? Frendraught in Forgue Alison On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Goldie & Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca>wrote: > Further.. 2 b/dates for George.... 1. 7 Oct 1730 ..... 2. 30 Oct > 1747......his father is given as Alexander Alexander, no mother mentioned. > If you are transcribing a will, you can work out his age and then know > which one he is. Likely one is an uncle........maybe named after the > father > of Alex and George.......good luck with this...and just out of curiosity > where is Black River, Musquito Shore....I'm sure all Listers would be > interested to know.......sounds like 'bring on the "musquito > spray"......Goldie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Goldie & Lido Doratti > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:28 PM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify > Froucharucht? > > Could it be Forgue parish, and the croft (farm of ) Frondraught; all in > Aberdeenshire? I have some Old Parish Records I took off a film of > Forgue, > and have some Alexanders as Witnesses to some baptisms, as well as some > Leslies I suspect so, Goldie. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gilbert Murray > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:09 PM > To: ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? > > Hi - I'm transcribing old wills of the Mosquito Shore, for a history, and > cannot identify a place in Aberdeenshire named in a will of 1785. Can > anyone help? > > Here's the entry: > > Black River, Musquito Shore: I, George Alexander of the Shore, Merchant, > in > an ill state of health. As soon as convenient after my decease I desire > my > Exors residing on the Musquito Shore sell and dispose of all property I > may > have on the Shore, the neat proceeds of which, together with the Debts due > me on the Shore as soon as they can be collected, I desire may be remitted > into the hands of my Exor in Great Britain to be placed at Interest in the > Public Funds. I bequeath to my Honored Mother Jane LESLY, widow of > Alexander Alexander of Frouchaught? in the Parish of Fergey* and shire of > Aberdeen in North Britain... > > Can anyone locate Frouchaught - could be Frourhaught? Fergey? I suspect > Fergey = Fergue. The people are not my ancestors. > > Appreciate your help! > > Sonia Bennett Murray > USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, but hold the phone here........A film here in Canada (Kamloops) cost about $7/8 to bring in from Salt Lake City. AND I can see the whole book for the effort of going to a LDS FHCenter..make copies and notes. For me on SP it costs about $12 for 30 credits, and IF you play your cards right, you should be able to get 5 marriages or deaths...1 credit to look and 5 to see it. BY far the advantage is the films. However you also need to realize some of the films will have pages copied twice, some are missed; then use SP as backup, if you really can't find the person from beginning to end and think it might have got missed. Scotland has the right to the records, and they have the right to the income they get from it. Bottom line is that when you GO to Scotland you play by their rules not yours. It's like taking a trip to Italy and saying you won't eat Italian food. It would be nice of them, though, IF after you spent say $100 CAD they gave you a few free credits as a regular customer. Like the stores in some places (ahem) do when you spend a set amount. If you can get the films, do it; you can find some hidden items like Mort Cloth rentals, others in the family who married or had children; occasionally stories and sometimes even a death record or even a missed Kirk Session record.......you are WAY further ahead with them. To suggest getting them on Ancestry opens up another can of worms....Ancestry isn't free either, so remember that as well. The $400 or so it costs goes a long way toward films and SP. We need to be thinking 'outside of the box'. Goldie -----Original Message----- From: Janet Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:56 PM To: leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk ; aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ScotlandsPeople It may or may not be pertinent to mention by comparison that GRO, England & Wales does not allow copy documents to be paid for online in the same way as Scotland's People. On payment of a fee of £9.25 to GRO one waits for up to 21 days through the post, or agrees to increase the fee for earlier receipt also through the post. I just wonder if a strong lobby on Bright Solid might push the outcome in a way that may not be anticipated. Scotland's People seemingly has no power to prevent subscribers to Ancestry uploading Scottish documents for public scrutiny, I think we are fortunate to be able to purchase online from the Scotland's People, and have the same assurance as those who purchase from GRO, that a document has not been altered in any way and can be relied upon. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ScotlandsPeople Venita said >It’s too bad there isn’t an option for a subscription. I believe it would >draw >more people to the collection if there were. . . Shall we start a >campaign? I'm afraid that SAFHS (Scottish Association of Family History Societies), which represents the Scottish FHSs, has for years been pressuring GROS (General Registry Office Scotland) for the introduction of an Annual Subscription to no avail. Besides being tied by legislation - it is in the will of the Scottish Parliament to change the legislation - there seems to be little will to introduce it. Of course Brightsolid, in their current guise, who operate SP on behalf of the Scottish Government would not make as much 'profit' if they introduced it. Despite this they do have Subscriptions to their other sites eg FindMyPast. Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try https://twitter.com/ScotlandsPeople Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray7033@gmail.com> To: "Les Horn" <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk>; "Aberdeen List" <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Scotlands People (SP) Les Do you have an MSP that researchers not living in Scotland could lobby? Living as I do in southern England, I really don't know who would be the best person to write to. If several hundred of us wrote to one person that might get things moving. Power to the people, or something Ray --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

In reply, my point was about Listers and other people lobbying who ever they feel would take up the issue. I'm not living in Scotland and I wouldnt try and tell the Scottish people what to do and how to go about it; I am offering thought that a strong lobby could change the benefit we now enjoy, if the powers that be are prompted to think about it. Another angle on the subject. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Scotlands People (SP) Hi all Whilst I agree with Janets point about the cost and time taken to only be able get 'certified' Certificates/extracts in England & Wales as opposed to being able to download 'uncertified' copies from SP. I'm afraid she misses the point. To quote her : >I just wonder if a strong lobby on Bright Solid might push the outcome in a way >that may not be anticipated. It is NOT in BrightSolids power to introduce an Annual Subscription for access to SP records. To quote myself : >Besides being tied by legislation - it is in the will of the Scottish >Parliament to change the legislation. To get the legislation changed requires the lobbying of MSPs and getting them on side AND getting one of them to propose a change in the legislation. Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Venita wrote..... Or is there another site where I can see the OPRs? Venita, Have you found the families on ScotlandsPeople? At least with the OPRs you are able to use a parent search! Why not download the search pages for 1 credit each then check the FamilySearch site to see if those Parishes have been filmed and order either.... 1. the film to your nearest FH centre ....or 2. use the FamilySearch digitised copy service which I believe is free for up to a certain number of entries at one time. The search pages usually give you a Frame No. on each entry so it makes ordering not too difficult. Regards Jenny --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Les Do you have an MSP that researchers not living in Scotland could lobby? Living as I do in southern England, I really don't know who would be the best person to write to. If several hundred of us wrote to one person that might get things moving. Power to the people, or something Ray Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net On 29 March 2014 23:11, <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hi all > > Whilst I agree with Janets point about the cost and time taken to only be > able get 'certified' Certificates/extracts in England & Wales as opposed to > being able to download 'uncertified' copies from SP. I'm afraid she misses > the point. To quote her : > > >I just wonder if a strong lobby on Bright Solid might push the outcome in > a way that may not be anticipated. > > It is NOT in BrightSolids power to introduce an Annual Subscription for > access to SP records. To quote myself : > > >Besides being tied by legislation - it is in the will of the Scottish > Parliament to change the legislation. > > To get the legislation changed requires the lobbying of MSPs and getting > them on side AND getting one of them to propose a change in the legislation. > > Regards > Les > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Wendy Burns" <wendy@jcres20.force9.co.uk> > Sender: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:48:35 > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen > > It may just be that the person reading the original document just took a > stab in the dark with the "touncr." and in fact it was weaver. I have just > found that when James STEWART married Teresa BYRES in 1763 he was given as > being a weaver. I suppose if the start of the W was high enough and the > rest > of the letter was lower then it could have looked like it started with a t. > Or he may have changed his occupation at some time between 1763 and 1787. > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Jamieson > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:40 PM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen > > Hi Wendy, > > This is diificult without viewing the original doc. junior - joiner - > tanner > - ??? > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Colleen > Sent: 28 March 2014 20:37 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen > > > A remote possibility a 'tonser' eg. a barber. > > Colleen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wendy Burns > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:47 AM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen > > Yes Gavin still trying to discover exactly what a touncr. is. > I appreciate your input and suggestion that it probably was a townkeeper > but > as I have been in touch with Aberdeen City Archives and the following was > their reply: "Thank you for your email. We only hold Burial registers for > St > Nicholas between 1824-c.1965. Perhaps the information came from the ANESFHS > Aberdeen North East Scotland Family History Society in which case I would > check with them. At a guess, could it be Toun Crier (Town Crier) or Town > Councillor? Sorry we could not be of assistance." So having received this > from them I thought I would check with you as to the possibility of these > suggestions as I have been aware of your input to these and other lists in > the past and hold your opinion in high regard. Looks like it will just have > to be left as touncr in my records for the time being. Thanks again for > your > valuable assistance. > > All the best > Wendy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gavin Bell > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:22 PM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen > > On 28/03/2014 12:43, Wendy Burns wrote: > > Hi Gavin, Could I please impose on your vast knowledge and ask if it > > was possible that my James Stewart could have been a town councillor > > if there were such things around 1787 ? > > There certainly were Councillors at that date - and for many centuries > preceding it. And if he was a Councillor, that fact will definitely be > recorded among the extensive Council documents held by Aberdeen City > Archives. > > But I am guessing this is part of your ongoing attempt to discover what > a "touncr" was? I think you can be fairly confident that it was NOT an > abbreviation for "Town Councillor". > > I would say again that the obvious thing to do is to ask Aberdeen City > Archives to take a look at the original Burial Records and see if they can > make the word out. The Burial records were transcribed some years ago by > volunteers, and that transcription was subsequently re-transcribed into > computer form, so there are multiple possibilities for misreadings. > > > Gavin Bell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 29 March 2014 21:14, George Brander <george.brander@gmail.com> wrote: > > There are ways of doing judicious searches on Scotlandspeople without > spending too many credits. > One strategy is to make your search criteria as broad as possible and > getting as many hits as possible for 1 credit and then narrowing it down > before paying for an image download. > The other strategy which I employ is to use very broad search criteria > which can then be narrowed down by either parish and/or year. I may start > off with about 40 or 60 hits but by progressively narrowing down the > criteria this can be reduced to one name, one parish and one year. Only > then do I use any credits. Venita There is one point in George Brander's email that I don't do myself. I agree with him about narrowing the search down to one person if you can by choosing parishes/parents/dates etc. However I would then expand the search by expanding the dates within the parish to encompass as many other members of the family as possible up to 25, or 50, 75, etc, aiming for a total of hits that gives you as close as possible to full pages of hits. By doing this each set of up to 25 cost 1 credit but you may well find other family members in the hit-list. I did that very early on and it gave us a clue about an ancestor because his eldest daughter got married within a few days of him marrying his third wife. It solved a problem in the Census returns, too detailed to go into here. The basic lesson is that a page of hits costs the same for the one hit or 25 hits so gather as much data for your 1 credit as you can. Be lucky Ray

ScotlandsPeople is a fantastic resource, but it has its limitations. You can use it to search for records in which specified people are baptised or married. But you'll learn a great deal more about other events within a similar timeframe in the same parish by browsing other pages from the same register. That's usually only possible if you can see the microfilm of the parish register. In Scotland these are held by the larger family history societies and local libraries. Further afield the easiest means of access is to order the film from your local LDS centre. Alison On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Jennifer Myers <jenm@exemail.com.au> wrote: > Venita wrote..... > Or is there another site where I can see the OPRs? > > Venita, > > Have you found the families on ScotlandsPeople? At least with the OPRs you > are able to use a parent search! > > Why not download the search pages for 1 credit each then check the > FamilySearch site to see if those Parishes have been filmed and order > either.... > 1. the film to your nearest FH centre ....or > 2. use the FamilySearch digitised copy service which I believe is free for > up to a certain number of entries at one time. > > The search pages usually give you a Frame No. on each entry so it makes > ordering not too difficult. > > Regards > Jenny > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all Whilst I agree with Janets point about the cost and time taken to only be able get 'certified' Certificates/extracts in England & Wales as opposed to being able to download 'uncertified' copies from SP. I'm afraid she misses the point. To quote her : >I just wonder if a strong lobby on Bright Solid might push the outcome in a way that may not be anticipated. It is NOT in BrightSolids power to introduce an Annual Subscription for access to SP records. To quote myself : >Besides being tied by legislation - it is in the will of the Scottish Parliament to change the legislation. To get the legislation changed requires the lobbying of MSPs and getting them on side AND getting one of them to propose a change in the legislation. Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Wendy Burns" <wendy@jcres20.force9.co.uk> Sender: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:48:35 To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen It may just be that the person reading the original document just took a stab in the dark with the "touncr." and in fact it was weaver. I have just found that when James STEWART married Teresa BYRES in 1763 he was given as being a weaver. I suppose if the start of the W was high enough and the rest of the letter was lower then it could have looked like it started with a t. Or he may have changed his occupation at some time between 1763 and 1787. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: George Jamieson Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:40 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen Hi Wendy, This is diificult without viewing the original doc. junior - joiner - tanner - ??? George -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Sent: 28 March 2014 20:37 To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen A remote possibility a 'tonser' eg. a barber. Colleen -----Original Message----- From: Wendy Burns Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:47 AM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen Yes Gavin still trying to discover exactly what a touncr. is. I appreciate your input and suggestion that it probably was a townkeeper but as I have been in touch with Aberdeen City Archives and the following was their reply: "Thank you for your email. We only hold Burial registers for St Nicholas between 1824-c.1965. Perhaps the information came from the ANESFHS Aberdeen North East Scotland Family History Society in which case I would check with them. At a guess, could it be Toun Crier (Town Crier) or Town Councillor? Sorry we could not be of assistance." So having received this from them I thought I would check with you as to the possibility of these suggestions as I have been aware of your input to these and other lists in the past and hold your opinion in high regard. Looks like it will just have to be left as touncr in my records for the time being. Thanks again for your valuable assistance. All the best Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Bell Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:22 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen On 28/03/2014 12:43, Wendy Burns wrote: > Hi Gavin, Could I please impose on your vast knowledge and ask if it > was possible that my James Stewart could have been a town councillor > if there were such things around 1787 ? There certainly were Councillors at that date - and for many centuries preceding it. And if he was a Councillor, that fact will definitely be recorded among the extensive Council documents held by Aberdeen City Archives. But I am guessing this is part of your ongoing attempt to discover what a "touncr" was? I think you can be fairly confident that it was NOT an abbreviation for "Town Councillor". I would say again that the obvious thing to do is to ask Aberdeen City Archives to take a look at the original Burial Records and see if they can make the word out. The Burial records were transcribed some years ago by volunteers, and that transcription was subsequently re-transcribed into computer form, so there are multiple possibilities for misreadings. 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That's why sight of the original source is essential. Alison On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Wendy Burns <wendy@jcres20.force9.co.uk>wrote: > It may just be that the person reading the original document just took a > stab in the dark with the "touncr." and in fact it was weaver. I have just > found that when James STEWART married Teresa BYRES in 1763 he was given as > being a weaver. I suppose if the start of the W was high enough and the > rest > of the letter was lower then it could have looked like it started with a t. > Or he may have changed his occupation at some time between 1763 and 1787. > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Jamieson > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:40 PM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen > > Hi Wendy, > > This is diificult without viewing the original doc. junior - joiner - > tanner > - ??? > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Colleen > Sent: 28 March 2014 20:37 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen > > > A remote possibility a 'tonser' eg. a barber. > > Colleen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wendy Burns > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:47 AM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen > > Yes Gavin still trying to discover exactly what a touncr. is. > I appreciate your input and suggestion that it probably was a townkeeper > but > as I have been in touch with Aberdeen City Archives and the following was > their reply: "Thank you for your email. We only hold Burial registers for > St > Nicholas between 1824-c.1965. Perhaps the information came from the ANESFHS > Aberdeen North East Scotland Family History Society in which case I would > check with them. At a guess, could it be Toun Crier (Town Crier) or Town > Councillor? Sorry we could not be of assistance." So having received this > from them I thought I would check with you as to the possibility of these > suggestions as I have been aware of your input to these and other lists in > the past and hold your opinion in high regard. Looks like it will just have > to be left as touncr in my records for the time being. Thanks again for > your > valuable assistance. > > All the best > Wendy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gavin Bell > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:22 PM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen > > On 28/03/2014 12:43, Wendy Burns wrote: > > Hi Gavin, Could I please impose on your vast knowledge and ask if it > > was possible that my James Stewart could have been a town councillor > > if there were such things around 1787 ? > > There certainly were Councillors at that date - and for many centuries > preceding it. And if he was a Councillor, that fact will definitely be > recorded among the extensive Council documents held by Aberdeen City > Archives. > > But I am guessing this is part of your ongoing attempt to discover what > a "touncr" was? I think you can be fairly confident that it was NOT an > abbreviation for "Town Councillor". > > I would say again that the obvious thing to do is to ask Aberdeen City > Archives to take a look at the original Burial Records and see if they can > make the word out. The Burial records were transcribed some years ago by > volunteers, and that transcription was subsequently re-transcribed into > computer form, so there are multiple possibilities for misreadings. > > > Gavin Bell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Frendraught in Forgue Alison On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Goldie & Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca>wrote: > Further.. 2 b/dates for George.... 1. 7 Oct 1730 ..... 2. 30 Oct > 1747......his father is given as Alexander Alexander, no mother mentioned. > If you are transcribing a will, you can work out his age and then know > which one he is. Likely one is an uncle........maybe named after the > father > of Alex and George.......good luck with this...and just out of curiosity > where is Black River, Musquito Shore....I'm sure all Listers would be > interested to know.......sounds like 'bring on the "musquito > spray"......Goldie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Goldie & Lido Doratti > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:28 PM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? > > Could it be Forgue parish, and the croft (farm of ) Frondraught; all in > Aberdeenshire? I have some Old Parish Records I took off a film of Forgue, > and have some Alexanders as Witnesses to some baptisms, as well as some > Leslies I suspect so, Goldie. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gilbert Murray > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:09 PM > To: ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? > > Hi - I'm transcribing old wills of the Mosquito Shore, for a history, and > cannot identify a place in Aberdeenshire named in a will of 1785. Can > anyone help? > > Here's the entry: > > Black River, Musquito Shore: I, George Alexander of the Shore, Merchant, > in > an ill state of health. As soon as convenient after my decease I desire my > Exors residing on the Musquito Shore sell and dispose of all property I may > have on the Shore, the neat proceeds of which, together with the Debts due > me on the Shore as soon as they can be collected, I desire may be remitted > into the hands of my Exor in Great Britain to be placed at Interest in the > Public Funds. I bequeath to my Honored Mother Jane LESLY, widow of > Alexander Alexander of Frouchaught? in the Parish of Fergey* and shire of > Aberdeen in North Britain... > > Can anyone locate Frouchaught - could be Frourhaught? Fergey? I suspect > Fergey = Fergue. The people are not my ancestors. > > Appreciate your help! > > Sonia Bennett Murray > USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It may just be that the person reading the original document just took a stab in the dark with the "touncr." and in fact it was weaver. I have just found that when James STEWART married Teresa BYRES in 1763 he was given as being a weaver. I suppose if the start of the W was high enough and the rest of the letter was lower then it could have looked like it started with a t. Or he may have changed his occupation at some time between 1763 and 1787. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: George Jamieson Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:40 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen Hi Wendy, This is diificult without viewing the original doc. junior - joiner - tanner - ??? George -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Sent: 28 March 2014 20:37 To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen A remote possibility a 'tonser' eg. a barber. Colleen -----Original Message----- From: Wendy Burns Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:47 AM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen Yes Gavin still trying to discover exactly what a touncr. is. I appreciate your input and suggestion that it probably was a townkeeper but as I have been in touch with Aberdeen City Archives and the following was their reply: "Thank you for your email. We only hold Burial registers for St Nicholas between 1824-c.1965. Perhaps the information came from the ANESFHS Aberdeen North East Scotland Family History Society in which case I would check with them. At a guess, could it be Toun Crier (Town Crier) or Town Councillor? Sorry we could not be of assistance." So having received this from them I thought I would check with you as to the possibility of these suggestions as I have been aware of your input to these and other lists in the past and hold your opinion in high regard. Looks like it will just have to be left as touncr in my records for the time being. Thanks again for your valuable assistance. All the best Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Bell Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:22 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James STEWART and Jane "Jean" SIM m.1801 Aberdeen On 28/03/2014 12:43, Wendy Burns wrote: > Hi Gavin, Could I please impose on your vast knowledge and ask if it > was possible that my James Stewart could have been a town councillor > if there were such things around 1787 ? There certainly were Councillors at that date - and for many centuries preceding it. And if he was a Councillor, that fact will definitely be recorded among the extensive Council documents held by Aberdeen City Archives. But I am guessing this is part of your ongoing attempt to discover what a "touncr" was? I think you can be fairly confident that it was NOT an abbreviation for "Town Councillor". I would say again that the obvious thing to do is to ask Aberdeen City Archives to take a look at the original Burial Records and see if they can make the word out. The Burial records were transcribed some years ago by volunteers, and that transcription was subsequently re-transcribed into computer form, so there are multiple possibilities for misreadings. Gavin Bell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Venita There are ways of doing judicious searches on Scotlandspeople without spending too many credits. One strategy is to make your search criteria as broad as possible and getting as many hits as possible for 1 credit and then narrowing it down before paying for an image download. The other strategy which I employ is to use very broad search criteria which can then be narrowed down by either parish and/or year. I may start off with about 40 or 60 hits but by progressively narrowing down the criteria this can be reduced to one name, one parish and one year. Only then do I use any credits. This can be time consuming but as long as you keep notes of your fruitless searches it can save you money. I may have left Aberdeen 52 years ago but I still have my Aberdonian instincts when it comes to counting my bawbees! regards George George Brander Torre de la Horadada España On 29 March 2014 21:30, <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Venita said > > >It's too bad there isn't an option for a subscription. I believe it > would draw more people to the collection if there were. . . Shall we start > a campaign? > > I'm afraid that SAFHS (Scottish Association of Family History Societies), > which represents the Scottish FHSs, has for years been pressuring GROS > (General Registry Office Scotland) for the introduction of an Annual > Subscription to no avail. Besides being tied by legislation - it is in the > will of the Scottish Parliament to change the legislation - there seems to > be little will to introduce it. > > Of course Brightsolid, in their current guise, who operate SP on behalf of > the Scottish Government would not make as much 'profit' if they introduced > it. Despite this they do have Subscriptions to their other sites eg > FindMyPast. > > Regards > Les > Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My mistake, I misread 47 as 37. Yes, the older would be an uncle and the George born in `47 the one who died in 1785, as his sisters were christened in 1745 and 55. Was Nathaniel close in time? Yes, spelling was all over the place. Records show George Hume as Hewm, Hewem, and Home! Sonia -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Goldie & Lido Doratti Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:38 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? 17 years apart...........could be a nephew to the Geo. you are looking for......don't just toss it out. This isn't a BIG area......and there are more than ONE Alexander family there. Names carry in Scotland. It wouldn't be hard to investigate the family, I don't think. I didn't spend much time looking, buy it looks to me like there are LOTS of Alexanders' in this small community. Christine is christened 1745, Helen christened 1755......... NATHANIEL is on the list as well...but spelled differently. They didn't pay much attention to spelling in those days like we do today. Goldie -----Original Message----- From: Gilbert Murray Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:45 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? Thanks, Goldie! I'll add that info to the history. The Mosquito Shore (they spelled it every which way back then) is now part of Nicaragua. It was a British settlement, primarily an entrepot for trading with the Mosquito Indians for mahogany and logwood and cochineal (both logwood and cochineal were sources of red dye.) It was raided periodically by the Spanish, but was more defensible than the Bay of Honduras, so the settlers from the Bay fled to the Shore when they were attacked. All that ended in 1798 when the Baymen defeated a Spanish invasion at the Battle of St. George's Key. My people went from Sheffield and Ireland via Jamaica to the Bay, where they were merchants, sending the children home to be educated. I have three books of early records of Belize now on Amazon, and am working on a history of the early settlement of the Mosquito Shore and Belize, but need to get back to the Archives for more research - Gil is now 84 and unable to travel, so everything is on hold. A good many Scots were in Belize as merchants, cutting and shipping mahogany and logwood back to England. If anyone on the Aberdeen list had ancestors who were on the Shore or in Belize (the Bay of Honduras) I'd be interested to know! If there are two baptisms in the same parish record for the same child and with the same father, seven years apart, the odds are that the first child died and the second was given the same name - in this case, probably for the father's father. The rest of the will gives more info on the family: On the decease of my Mother Jane Lesly it is my will and pleasure that the Remainder and Residue of my Estate so invested shall be equally divided between my dear Brother Nathaniel Alexander and my two dear Sisters Christian and Helen Alexander, their Heirs or Executors, or the Survivor or Survivors of them. Thanks again, Sonia -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Goldie & Lido Doratti Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 5:37 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? Further.. 2 b/dates for George.... 1. 7 Oct 1730 ..... 2. 30 Oct 1747......his father is given as Alexander Alexander, no mother mentioned. If you are transcribing a will, you can work out his age and then know which one he is. Likely one is an uncle........maybe named after the father of Alex and George.......good luck with this...and just out of curiosity where is Black River, Musquito Shore....I'm sure all Listers would be interested to know.......sounds like 'bring on the "musquito spray"......Goldie -----Original Message----- From: Goldie & Lido Doratti Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:28 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? Could it be Forgue parish, and the croft (farm of ) Frondraught; all in Aberdeenshire? I have some Old Parish Records I took off a film of Forgue, and have some Alexanders as Witnesses to some baptisms, as well as some Leslies I suspect so, Goldie. -----Original Message----- From: Gilbert Murray Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:09 PM To: ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [ABERDEEN] Anderson, Lesly - Can anyone identify Froucharucht? Hi - I'm transcribing old wills of the Mosquito Shore, for a history, and cannot identify a place in Aberdeenshire named in a will of 1785. Can anyone help? Here's the entry: Black River, Musquito Shore: I, George Alexander of the Shore, Merchant, in an ill state of health. As soon as convenient after my decease I desire my Exors residing on the Musquito Shore sell and dispose of all property I may have on the Shore, the neat proceeds of which, together with the Debts due me on the Shore as soon as they can be collected, I desire may be remitted into the hands of my Exor in Great Britain to be placed at Interest in the Public Funds. I bequeath to my Honored Mother Jane LESLY, widow of Alexander Alexander of Frouchaught? in the Parish of Fergey* and shire of Aberdeen in North Britain... Can anyone locate Frouchaught - could be Frourhaught? Fergey? I suspect Fergey = Fergue. The people are not my ancestors. Appreciate your help! Sonia Bennett Murray USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It may or may not be pertinent to mention by comparison that GRO, England & Wales does not allow copy documents to be paid for online in the same way as Scotland's People. On payment of a fee of £9.25 to GRO one waits for up to 21 days through the post, or agrees to increase the fee for earlier receipt also through the post. I just wonder if a strong lobby on Bright Solid might push the outcome in a way that may not be anticipated. Scotland's People seemingly has no power to prevent subscribers to Ancestry uploading Scottish documents for public scrutiny, I think we are fortunate to be able to purchase online from the Scotland's People, and have the same assurance as those who purchase from GRO, that a document has not been altered in any way and can be relied upon. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ScotlandsPeople Venita said >It’s too bad there isn’t an option for a subscription. I believe it would draw >more people to the collection if there were. . . Shall we start a campaign? I'm afraid that SAFHS (Scottish Association of Family History Societies), which represents the Scottish FHSs, has for years been pressuring GROS (General Registry Office Scotland) for the introduction of an Annual Subscription to no avail. Besides being tied by legislation - it is in the will of the Scottish Parliament to change the legislation - there seems to be little will to introduce it. Of course Brightsolid, in their current guise, who operate SP on behalf of the Scottish Government would not make as much 'profit' if they introduced it. Despite this they do have Subscriptions to their other sites eg FindMyPast. Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Venita said >It’s too bad there isn’t an option for a subscription. I believe it would draw more people to the collection if there were. . . Shall we start a campaign? I'm afraid that SAFHS (Scottish Association of Family History Societies), which represents the Scottish FHSs, has for years been pressuring GROS (General Registry Office Scotland) for the introduction of an Annual Subscription to no avail. Besides being tied by legislation - it is in the will of the Scottish Parliament to change the legislation - there seems to be little will to introduce it. Of course Brightsolid, in their current guise, who operate SP on behalf of the Scottish Government would not make as much 'profit' if they introduced it. Despite this they do have Subscriptions to their other sites eg FindMyPast. Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device