He didn't need a passport to come from Scotland to Canada, he was a British subject. The trick would be to see if you can find the ship he came to Canada on, which would possibly help you. Also check the 1911 census at Automated Genealogy for Canada. His attestation papers should also give the place he was living, so that would be where you would likely find him living. I need to claify that last statement......if he lived in a rural area he likely would have gone to a larger city to sign up. But the papers should give his home address.....then look on the 1911 for him in that province. I would doubt he legally had his name changed in those days. Goldie in Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MISS ADELINE MARTIN" <martin8118@sbcglobal.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: [ABERDEEN] LEGAL NAME CHANGE Hello Can anyone tell me where I can find a record of a legal name change if there was one. I have a Charles George Gray Somors Illegitimate son of Catherine Somors born in Edinburgh on April 28,1876. In the 1881 census he is living with his grandparents in Kelso under the name of Charles S.Gray.In the 1891 census he is listed as Charles Summers.I have not been able to track him for a number of years until a few days ago I found that he joined the Canadian Army on Dec.6,1915 and he was married to a Mary ?. I now have a marriage Reg. from Scotlandspeople 1906 for a Charles John Summers with his parents being John Summers (his Grandfather's name) and Catherine Summers ms Martin,(his Grandmothers name was Rose Summers ms Martin) married to a Mary Kennedy.His Occupation was the same as in his Army join-up papers so I am sure that I have the right marriage. I am trying to find out if he had to legally change the George part of his name and also the spelling of his Surname to get a passport go to Canada. I will be grateful for any info. that I can get as his mother Catherine was my Gt.Grandmother's sister Adeline Martin Ct. U.S.A. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning Listers, I am trying to find the birth of of my 3 xG. Grandfather William Grant on the 1851 English Census it was stated that he was born in Aberdeen in abt 1790 at the time he was living in London. Also on the birth certificate of his son Edwin who was born 12/7/1834 his occupation is noted as sawyer previously in merchant service would that information help with my search. Also I have looked on family search and found a William Grant christened 4th April 1791 at Old Machar, Aberdeen, could this be my William. If not would anyone have any suggestions, thanks in advance Regards Marion a very hot Sydney Australia

Hello   Can anyone tell me where I can find a record of a legal name change if there was one.   I have a Charles George Gray Somors Illegitimate son of Catherine Somors born in Edinburgh on April 28,1876. In the 1881 census he is living with his grandparents in Kelso under the name of Charles S.Gray.In the 1891 census he is listed as Charles Summers.I have not been able to track him for a number of years until a few days ago I found that he joined the Canadian Army on Dec.6,1915 and he was married to a Mary ?. I now have a marriage Reg. from Scotlandspeople 1906 for a Charles John Summers with his parents being John Summers (his Grandfather's name) and Catherine Summers ms Martin,(his Grandmothers name was Rose Summers ms Martin) married to a Mary Kennedy.His Occupation was the same as in his Army join-up papers so I am sure that I have the right marriage. I am trying to find out if he had to legally change the George part of his name and also the spelling of his Surname  to get a passport go to Canada.    I will be grateful for any info. that I can get as his mother Catherine was my Gt.Grandmother's sister   Adeline Martin Ct. U.S.A.

2010/1/22 ALEXANDER BURT <alexanderburt@btopenworld.com> wrote: has there been a breakdown in connunication > ______________________________________ Hi Alec You can always check on the Rootsweb Archive. For Aberdeen it is at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ABERDEEN/ There you will see there were no messages on 20 or 21 January. -- Best wishes Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP **********************************************************

every day i looked forward to reading the emails  from  members requesting help for info. re. aherdeen aberdeshire for the last few days i have not recieved any mail regarding same   has there been a breakdown in connunication   alec

Interesting!! Thanks for the link. Venita On Jan 19, 2010, at 12:19 AM, Bill Wood wrote: > Hello, > > Whilst googling the Laird of Auchry, I found this book free on rootsweb > > "The Baronage of Scotland" by Sir Robert Douglas 1813 > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~battle/baronage/page337.html > > It may be useful for other folk.- quite long strings of names and > biographical notes for lot of different people. > > What I want to know is - what happened to my bit of the castle ? > > Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Susan Dunn as the mother of William Penny in 1842 Rathen.  She was a servant girl on the Penny farm. She did not marry John Penny the father and son of the farmer.  (Teenage love) Susan went on to marry a Trail.   I would be interested in any information about her family.   Laura --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Anne Godfrey <rossum@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Anne Godfrey <rossum@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Dun/Dunn To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:26 AM Michael, don't you do a newsletter for Dun? Anne Godfrey Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he has chosen for his own inheritance - Psalms 33:12 --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Michael Dun <Editor@Dun.org.uk> wrote: From: Michael Dun <Editor@Dun.org.uk> Subject: [ABERDEEN] Dun/Dunn To: ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:45 AM Can any of the name Dunn trace their line back to Dun in Aberdeen or any connection with the lands of Tarty in the 1750's ? Best wishes, ~~~ Michael Dun 59 Dalhousie Road Dundee DD5 2SU Scotland www.Dun.org.uk Latitude 56°:28:26.50" North   Longitude 02°:50:41.31" West ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael, don't you do a newsletter for Dun? Anne Godfrey Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he has chosen for his own inheritance - Psalms 33:12 --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Michael Dun <Editor@Dun.org.uk> wrote: From: Michael Dun <Editor@Dun.org.uk> Subject: [ABERDEEN] Dun/Dunn To: ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:45 AM Can any of the name Dunn trace their line back to Dun in Aberdeen or any connection with the lands of Tarty in the 1750's ? Best wishes, ~~~ Michael Dun 59 Dalhousie Road Dundee DD5 2SU Scotland www.Dun.org.uk Latitude 56°:28:26.50" North   Longitude 02°:50:41.31" West ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Whilst googling the Laird of Auchry, I found this book free on rootsweb "The Baronage of Scotland" by Sir Robert Douglas 1813 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~battle/baronage/page337.html It may be useful for other folk.- quite long strings of names and biographical notes for lot of different people. What I want to know is - what happened to my bit of the castle ? Bill

Hi Leonie, There isn't a William Gray but there is a James Gray aged 21 born Longside, Abds. This is the only crew list I have got as my Gt.Grandfather was on board this ship. The problem is the lists aren't indexed so it involves an awful lot of time and patience. All crew lists from 1857-1860 are held at the Public Record Office, Kew. After that date they are held in various places in the UK and some in Newfoundland. There is a long term project to index crew lists known as the 'Clip' project. So far one CD has been issued covering 270,000 entries for various lists between 1863 and 1913. This is an ongoing project and no doubt will lead to other releases in the future. You could try contacting www.GenealogySupplies.com for a copy of what they have produced. My husband has been interested in ships for ever so is quite knowledgeable about the records so was a great help to me, nevertheless, my gt.gt.grandfather remains elusive. The nearest to the 1850s is a Wm.Gray age 41 born Hull for 1863 and another for 1866 born Cromarty. Let me know if one of these could possibly your William. Mary.

Get onto Google and input Peterhead whaling......there are several stories and also a list with 15 Gray's on it.....Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonie Harding" <leonieharding@yahoo.com.au> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lost Sailors Hi Mary Would there be a William Gray on that crew list or any other list from the 1850's? Leonie Harding --- On Mon, 18/1/10, goldie and Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca> wrote: > From: goldie and Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca> > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lost Sailors > To: Marychandler@lineone.net, aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Received: Monday, 18 January, 2010, 11:36 AM > 2ND THOUGHT ~~ Do you perchance, have > any other records of ships out of > Peterhead with Walkers on them? 1800's forward to the > 1900's........sounds > like a 'stupid question', but I was told once that 'there > are no stupid > questions, only stupid answers'...so I thought I would > try..(???) Searching > for lost sailors out of Peterhead is worse than the > proverbial haystack!! > Thanks, Goldie > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Chandler" <Marychandler@lineone.net> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:21 AM > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lost Sailors > > > >I have a crew list for the "North of Scotland" sailing > out of Peterhead in > > 1856. There is a William Burnet listed aged 22 > born Tyrie who was a > > cook's > > mate. His conduct was very good. The > spelling of Tyrie looks like Tyre > > and > > as this Tyrie looks closest to Peterhead I opted for > this one. I also have > > an interest in the name Burnett but have hit a brick > wall but I can find > > no > > connection to William. > > > > Sorry there are no Walkers on the list Goldie. > > > > Mary. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I did a fair amount of reading trying to get the Walker family, and I do know the Gray family was also a Whaling family. There is a Peterhead site and some whaling info on it. Google for it, I can't recall just what it was called but it was Peterhead. I'll go thru my notes and see if I can find anything on the Gray's, but don't hold your breath. This is a long hard go finding whalers. Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonie Harding" <leonieharding@yahoo.com.au> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lost Sailors Hi Mary Would there be a William Gray on that crew list or any other list from the 1850's? Leonie Harding --- > >> > > >I > > > > >> __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Schani Biermann wrote: > > i have a LWT in which a spinster lady leaves some property in her > will to family members. She talks about the "boundaries" of the > property she owned around College Street close to Windmill Brae in > Old Machar and also the owners when the original property was bought. That is what Scottish "Feu Dispositions" do - they describe the piece of land, and list the successive owners. They normally do not mention any buildings which might happen to be on the land - these come as a bonus! > > > QUESTION: > > Do land deeds/land settlements survive from mid 19th centuryAbeerdeen > that one can search/order which might go into further detail on all > these property transfers?. Yes. Land transfers were recorded in various "Registers of Sasines". These were originally compiled separately for each County, and older ones for Aberdeen town are still held by Aberdeen City Archives. However, I think the Registers for mid-19th century Aberdeen are now at the National Archives in Edinburgh. > > when i was researching in Nova Scotia (Canada) i found many old land > deeds/settlement which outlined the division of property naming heirs > and giving relationships of all concerned Entries in the Sasine Registers will tell who who owns the property now, and who owned it previously. It will not tell you about any other family of the owners, present or past, unless the ownership was shared or joint. Gavin Bell

Schani Biermann wrote: > to all listers > > on the 1851 census (transcribed by Ancestry > not the original image) > i have an ancestor, John GARDENn whose place of birth has been > transcribed as "Chierry, Aberdeen" [sic] Leaving aside the question of Ancestry transcriptions, go back to what the entry in the relevant columns in the Census was meant to be. This was "Parish of Birth", so what ever the entry actually says, it shouldn't be the name of a street. And "Aberdeen" in this context would normally mean "AberdeenSHIRE", so I would expect "Chierry" to represent a blind guess at the name of an Aberdeenshire parish, by someone who (like most of Ancestry's transcribers) knew little or nothing of the placenames he/she was dealing with. Nothing immediately springs to mind - except possibly "Cairnie" (or "Cairney", or other variants) which is a parish in the northwest of Aberdeenshire, near Keith (in Banffshire) - but I would bite the bullet, spend 1 GBP or equivalent on Scotlandspeople, and view the original. Gavin Bell

listers: i have a LWT in which a spinster lady leaves some property in her will to family members. She talks about the "boundaries" of the property she owned around College Street close to Windmill Brae in Old Machar and also the owners when the original property was bought. QUESTION: Do land deeds/land settlements survive from mid 19th centuryAbeerdeen that one can search/order which might go into further detail on all these property transfers?. when i was researching in Nova Scotia (Canada) i found many old land deeds/settlement which outlined the division of property naming heirs and giving relationships of all concerned Schani Biermann, canada

to all listers on the 1851 census (transcribed by Ancestry > not the original image) i have an ancestor, John GARDENn whose place of birth has been transcribed as "Chierry, Aberdeen" [sic] On a map on "MultiMap" there is a Cherry Road just south of Woodside and there is a Cherry Grove Road, Blackburn, Aberdeen. doesn't make sense to me that they would name the street he was born on! An area? any ideas Schani Biermann, canada

Hi Mary Would there be a William Gray on that crew list or any other list from the 1850's? Leonie Harding --- On Mon, 18/1/10, goldie and Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca> wrote: > From: goldie and Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca> > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lost Sailors > To: Marychandler@lineone.net, aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Received: Monday, 18 January, 2010, 11:36 AM > 2ND THOUGHT ~~ Do you perchance, have > any other records of ships out of > Peterhead with Walkers on them?  1800's forward to the > 1900's........sounds > like a 'stupid question', but I was told once that 'there > are no stupid > questions, only stupid answers'...so I thought I would > try..(???)  Searching > for lost sailors out of Peterhead is worse than the > proverbial haystack!! > Thanks, Goldie > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Chandler" <Marychandler@lineone.net> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:21 AM > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lost Sailors > > > >I have a crew list for the "North of Scotland" sailing > out of Peterhead in > > 1856.  There is a William Burnet listed aged 22 > born Tyrie who was a > > cook's > > mate.  His conduct was very good.  The > spelling of Tyrie looks like Tyre > > and > > as this Tyrie looks closest to Peterhead I opted for > this one. I also have > > an interest in the name Burnett but have hit a brick > wall but I can find > > no > > connection to William. > > > > Sorry there are no Walkers on the list Goldie. > > > > Mary. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/

Howard said, inter alia: > See also the Times Educational Supplement's > http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6026496 re the James Wilson > diaries: a very positive review of that book with its accompanying CD called > Ruled By The Seasons - note that every school in Scotland now has its own > copy. Edith Lowrie mentioned in the review is my cousin - and not *quite* as > old as the review states. -------- I presume that what is being referred to is "Journal of my life and everyday doings,1879-81, 1885-92: James Wilson, farmer in Banffshire", edited by Peter Hillis, published 2008 by the Scottish History Society. All of us who are members of that society get a copy of each book as it is published, for our annual subscription, and I commend that society to anyone interested in Scottish history. Gordon Johnson

Sorry Goldie I only made a note of McDonalds as I was trawling through so many crew lists. It was a few years ago and I don't manage to get to the Public Record Office at Kew these days. Sorry I can't help you. Mary. From: "Mary Chandler" <Marychandler@lineone.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lost Sailors

Thank you anyhow......Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Chandler" <Marychandler@lineone.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lost Sailors > Sorry Goldie I only made a note of McDonalds as I was trawling through so > many crew lists. It was a few years ago and I don't manage to get to the > Public Record Office at Kew these days. Sorry I can't help you. > Mary. > > From: "Mary Chandler" <Marychandler@lineone.net> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:21 AM > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lost Sailors > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >