Ray, Isobel,Gavin thanks for your responses, I need to drop the Z in my pronunciation, as a matter of interest it is what my Abel/Wilson family called their first home in Hunterville New Zealand, a wee slab sided wooden cottage with a tin roof and a local climate to match Aberdeenshire in winter. Also of interest where the early inhabitants of Hunterville and surrounds with most coming from Aberdeenshire, amongst my family alone there where Abel's, Taylor's, Howies and Wilson's who married into Black,Laing,lambert,England and Dillon families also maistly from Aberdeenshire. To this day there is still the Scottish Saltire flying above the old local Post Office and descendants of these people still living in the district. I might also add that it has one of the oldest continuously running Pipebands in NZ , formed in 1923 by playing members Malcolm Ross, Davie and Stanley Abel, it was originally called the Hunterville Pipe band, but in honour of the district and the mitherland is now called the Rangitiki Scots pipeband. Rangitiki pronounced Rang-gi-tie-key. Cheers Wayne Abel.

Wayne Abel wrote: > Ray, Isobel,Gavin thanks for your responses, I need to drop the Z in my > pronunciation ... As a general rule, "nz" in older Scots represented what in Standard English is usually shown as "ng". This older style of spelling persists in placenames like Auchmunziel and Finzean. There are also names like MENZIES. Some people pronounce this as "menzees", but many prefer "mingeez". Gavin Bell

" I am reposting my BLACK research interest living in Duff Street, Gamrie, Banff." "Duff Street, Gamrie" probably means "Duff Street, Macduff". " Thank you Gavin for the Information on Duff Street it is much appreciaate I will be in Banff in May this year and hope to find some of these elusive Ancesters. Cheers Chrissy Wellborne Bundaberg Australia Subject: ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 44> Message: 3 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:44:23 +0000 From: Gavin Bell <g.bell@which.net> known Children ... 2.Alexander BLACK born c 1791 Gamrie BANFF dies before 1861 Gamrie Banff? occupation in the 1841 census a wright , living in Duff Street, Gamrie, Banff. married Helen FORDYCE in 1817..Three known Children Alexander BLACK George BLACK ....marries Jane LEASK no known children..her parents George LEASK and Jane GREIG William BLACK "Duff Street, Gamrie" probably means "Duff Street, Macduff". The western end of the parish of Gamrie (known as Doune or Down) was semi-independent from the later 18th century, when the then Earl of Fife paid for a new church (Doune Kirk) overlooking the town which was, in his honour, renamed Macduff. This administrative independence seems to have been temporarily abolished when civil registration started in 1855, with Doune/Macduff being re-integrated into the Registration District of Gamrie. In 1882 Macduff was set up as a separate Registration District. The MIs for Doune Kirk list several BLACKs. Gavin Bell -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4869 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

On Tuesday 09 February 2010 06:46:03 am Ray Hennessy wrote: > On 9 February 2010 12:13, Wayne Abel <honk-abel@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > LOL Ray, I had best send you some photos Ray, as Hunterville does > > experience snow and has also on occasion been bloked off. Although I must > > admit 'whilst Diving in the Clyde off Greenock in my Navy days', it was a > > bit colder than the waters off NZ to say the least. Brrrr. > > ___________________________ > > ?"bloked off"? That sounds a bit Aussie to me. The sort of thing that > happens to our great cricketers when the Oz thugs get their sledges > out. He may have intended to say blocked off, Ray. Bob Wallace Dayton, Nevada

Hi Bobbie...thanks for your help...got it on the map...sending letter today to the occupant. Appreciate your help. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Bobbie and Brian Amyes <bamyes@xtra.co.nz> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 11:10 pm Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Cairnbanno House, New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Hi Jim am sure that Gavin Bell will be able to give you a precise location, but airnbanno House is to the west of New Deer. It can be found on old maps UK s it was when your gg grandfather was alive and on multimap.com today. ust enter New Deer and head South West from there...Cairnbanno House! f you are still having trouble go west along to Slacks of Cairnbanno then outh west from there. heers obbie here in NZ...descendant of Howies of Slacks Cairnbanno ---- Original Message ----- rom: <cretic04@aol.com> o: <ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com> ent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:30 PM ubject: [ABERDEEN] Cairnbanno House, New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Hi Im wondering if there may be a connection here to the subject location. My ggrandfather was born, according to his birth record at Cairnbanno House. I have been to the location but was unable to locate Cairnbanno House. His name was Robert William Forbes Taylor b. 1848 to James and Jane Taylor. Maybe someone would have an address where I could sen an inquiry. Thanks, Jim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hey Jen, Thank you ...great work. Believe it or not I just typed a letter and addressed it to "Resident". I just added the name you provided. Awesome. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Brad and Jen <bradandjen@iinet.net.au> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 11:42 pm Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Cairnbanno House, New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Here's a link which might help as it has an address and phone number isted - ttp://www.hotfroguk.co.uk/Companies/K-J-Scott Cheers, en. ----- Original Message ----- rom: <cretic04@aol.com> o: <ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com> ent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:30 PM ubject: [ABERDEEN] Cairnbanno House, New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Hi Im wondering if there may be a connection here to the subject location. My ggrandfather was born, according to his birth record at Cairnbanno House. I have been to the location but was unable to locate Cairnbanno House. His name was Robert William Forbes Taylor b. 1848 to James and Jane Taylor. Maybe someone would have an address where I could sen an inquiry. Thanks, Jim ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Ray...thank you....I was in that area and found numerous houses but couldn't determine which one, if any, was the original property. Locals tried hard but I picked a bad day...no one around with historical background. I've sent a letter to the address...we'll see what comes of it. Thanks for your help. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hennessy <ray7033@googlemail.com> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 5:20 am Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Cairnbanno House, New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland On 8 February 2010 03:30, Jim <cretic04@aol.com> wrote: > ... I have been to the location but was unable to locate Cairnbanno House. Hi Jim You can see the location of Cairnbanno House on multimap at ttp://bit.ly/Cairnbanno The locaton circle obscures the House bit but if yu zoom in you'll get an dea how big it is! - est wishes Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy orenames website: www.whatsinaname.net referred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net ints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP ********************************************************* ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi, can someone please give me the correct pronunciation of 'Auchmunziel'. Cheers Wayne Abel

Greetings from Western Australia Listers, I have a Janet Black whoi married Neil Fletcher in Macduff in 1832. Any chance of a connection Chrissy? Regards, Nigel Boundy Wanneroo, WA ----- Original Message ---- From: "jandcwellborne@bigpond.com" <jandcwellborne@bigpond.com> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 5:40:07 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Black Family of Banff " I am reposting my BLACK research interest living in Duff Street, Gamrie, Banff." "Duff Street, Gamrie" probably means "Duff Street, Macduff". " Thank you Gavin for the Information on Duff Street it is much appreciaate I will be in Banff in May this year and hope to find some of these elusive Ancesters. Cheers Chrissy Wellborne Bundaberg Australia Subject: ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 44> Message: 3 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:44:23 +0000 From: Gavin Bell <g.bell@which.net> known Children ... 2.Alexander BLACK born c 1791 Gamrie BANFF  dies before 1861 Gamrie Banff?  occupation in the 1841 census a wright , living in Duff Street, Gamrie, Banff. married Helen FORDYCE in 1817..Three known Children Alexander BLACK George BLACK ....marries Jane LEASK no known children..her parents George LEASK and Jane GREIG William BLACK "Duff Street, Gamrie" probably means "Duff Street, Macduff".  The western end of the parish of Gamrie (known as Doune or Down) was semi-independent from the later 18th century, when the then Earl of Fife paid for a new church (Doune Kirk) overlooking the town which was, in his honour, renamed Macduff.  This administrative independence seems to have been temporarily abolished when civil registration started in 1855, with Doune/Macduff being re-integrated into the Registration District of Gamrie.  In 1882 Macduff was set up as a separate Registration District. The MIs for Doune Kirk list several BLACKs. Gavin Bell -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4869 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jim I am sure that Gavin Bell will be able to give you a precise location, but Cairnbanno House is to the west of New Deer. It can be found on old maps UK as it was when your gg grandfather was alive and on multimap.com today. Just enter New Deer and head South West from there...Cairnbanno House! If you are still having trouble go west along to Slacks of Cairnbanno then south west from there. cheers Bobbie here in NZ...descendant of Howies of Slacks Cairnbanno ----- Original Message ----- From: <cretic04@aol.com> To: <ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: [ABERDEEN] Cairnbanno House, New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland > Hi > Im wondering if there may be a connection here to the subject location. > My ggrandfather was born, according to his birth record at Cairnbanno > House. I have been to the location but was unable to locate Cairnbanno > House. His name was Robert William Forbes Taylor b. 1848 to James and > Jane Taylor. Maybe someone would have an address where I could sen an > inquiry. Thanks, Jim > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's a link which might help as it has an address and phone number listed - http://www.hotfroguk.co.uk/Companies/K-J-Scott Cheers, Jen. ----- Original Message ----- From: <cretic04@aol.com> To: <ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: [ABERDEEN] Cairnbanno House, New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland > Hi > Im wondering if there may be a connection here to the subject location. > My ggrandfather was born, according to his birth record at Cairnbanno > House. I have been to the location but was unable to locate Cairnbanno > House. His name was Robert William Forbes Taylor b. 1848 to James and > Jane Taylor. Maybe someone would have an address where I could sen an > inquiry. Thanks, Jim

I can say it but not sure I can spell it! Ach-ming-le (ming as in the dynasty) Isobel Davidson

Wayne Abel wrote: > Hi, can someone please give me the correct pronunciation of > 'Auchmunziel'. The Spalding Club's "Placenames of Aberdeenshire" offers two versions - but unfortunately reports them using the International Phonetic Alphabet, which (a) is not available via a List like this and (b) with which you may not be familiar. An approximation to each might be: achmingell or achminnell Gavin Bell

On 8 February 2010 11:28, Wayne Abel <honk-abel@westnet.com.au> wrote: Hi, can someone please give me the correct pronunciation of 'Auchmunziel'. > Cheers Wayne Abel > ______________________ Hi Wayne I don't know how you pronounce it but I think it means "you can't get there from here!" Ray [Expecting a blast from Gavin]

On 8 February 2010 03:30, Jim <cretic04@aol.com> wrote: > > ... I have been to the location but was unable to locate Cairnbanno House. > > Hi Jim You can see the location of Cairnbanno House on multimap at http://bit.ly/Cairnbanno The locaton circle obscures the House bit but if yu zoom in you'll get an idea how big it is! -- Best wishes Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP **********************************************************

Hi Im wondering if there may be a connection here to the subject location. My ggrandfather was born, according to his birth record at Cairnbanno House. I have been to the location but was unable to locate Cairnbanno House. His name was Robert William Forbes Taylor b. 1848 to James and Jane Taylor. Maybe someone would have an address where I could sen an inquiry. Thanks, Jim

Hi Listers, I'm hoping for some advise please. I have a William Grant born abt 1791 in Aberdeen I located this from the 1851 census, he and his family were living in London and it was stated that he was born in Aberdeen. I've searched Family Search and found a William Grant born 4th April 1791 in Old Machar and I've also looked on Scotlandspeople and he seems to be the right one, does anyone think I can claim him as mine. Also I'm coming to Scotland in May and would love to come to Aberdeen and hopefully find more information. Thanks Marion a wet and soggy Sydney Australia

Cathy - I have a few WATTs but I'm not certain of the locations involved. If these ring any bells .... John WATT m. 1829, Chapel of Garioch to Margaret WALKER children: Elizabeth and Alexander George WATT m. 1873, Culsalmond to Mary BODIE children: James Harry DOW m. 1795, Kennethmont to Helen WATT children: Andrew, Helen, Ann, William, John and James Alexander SMITH m. 1857, Fordyce to Isabella WATT Children: William Cowie, Ann Helen, Isabella, Alexander, Christian Isabella Park Winchester, James and Janet Sinclair James WATT m. <unknown> to Janet SHAND Children: Isabella (above who married Alexander SMITH), born in Portsoy, Fordyce Regards - Glen C. Bodie Web http://Bodie.CA Home mailto:glen@glenbodie.com or mailto:Glen.Bodie@gmail.com Cell mailto:TyTN@Bodie.ca (no attachments) Snail Mail: 76 Strathcona Ave, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M4J 1G8 -----Original Message----- Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:55:10 -0800 (PST) From: cathy carley <cathy_carley@yahoo.com.au> Subject: [ABERDEEN] WATT in Fyvie and Tyrie To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com GDAY:) Is anyone please researching WATT Family from? Mill of Gight Fyvie and TYRIE Aberdeen Its a Direct Line Thanks Regards Cathy:)

Hi Ann, You're welcome; and if you need more help with the census, let me know. I also have Gordons in my tree, but they hail from Fife; however, all of these Gordons are undoubtedly related way back. It would be good to find that link one day. Cheers, Carol On 7 February 2010 01:52, <Anndriscoll@aol.com> wrote: > > Hi Carol, many thanks for this and the other info you sent me. I have > saved it, I know I have, just can't see it at the moment. Fortunately I > copied and pasted the info. into another folder, just your original > e-mail has > gone walkabout. > > Many thanks again, much appreciated > > Ann > > Hi Ann, > > Found this in 1891 census - > > *William Gordon* Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relationship: > Son Father's > Name: William Mother's Name: Barbra Gender: Male Where born: Monquhitter, > Aberdeenshire Registration Number: 222B Registration district: Millbrex > Civil > parish: Monquhitter County: Aberdeenshire Address: Grain Hill ED: 3 > Household > schedule number: 46 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1891_67 Household Members: > Name Age William > Gordon< > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1891Scotland&indiv=try& > h=980963> > 32 Barbra > Gordon< > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1891Scotland&indiv=try&h=980964 > > > 26 William > Gordon< > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1891Scotland&indiv=try&h=980965 > > > 3 James > Gordon< > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1891Scotland&indiv=try&h=980966 > > > 9mo Jane > Hendry< > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1891Scotland&indiv=try&h=980967 > > > 17 Alex > Davidson< > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1891Scotland&indiv=try&h=980968 > > > 16 > > Source Citation: Parish: *Monquhitter*; ED: *3*; Page: *10*; Line: *9*; > Roll *CSSCT1891_67*; Year: *1891*. > There are others; if you would like, I can email you privately with the > rest. > > Cheers, > > Carol > > On 5 February 2010 20:18, Ray Hennessy <ray7033@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > On 4 February 2010 23:07, <Anndriscoll@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi list, I have just joined and am looking for a family of Gordon > > > (surname) to include William A Gordon born c 1888 with father also > > William > > > A Gordon. ... Would SKS please be kind enough to look on those > > censuses > > > for any possibilities? > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Hi Ann & welcome > > > > The 1891 and 1901 Census records are imaged and indexed on the > Scotland's > > People site. For a small sum you can search the index and download > images. > > The url is: > > http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.aspx > > > > -- > > Best wishes > > > > Ray > > > > ********************************************************** > > >From Ray Hennessy > > Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net > > Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net > > Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP > > ********************************************************** > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Anyone have a John Stephen (1884 -1954), that married a Elizabeth Ann Tait in their family tree. Regards Julie Sunny Wellington, NZ