Schani, Found the following on the IGI: Andrew Thomson had the following children: 1. John 1.12.1785 Lonmay C112194 extracted record 2. Mary 22.2.1788 Lonmay C112194 extracted record 3. Robert 13.4.1790 Lonmay C112194 extracted record 4. Anne 1.6.1792 Lonmay C112194 extracted record 5. Robert 9.6.1794 Lonmay C112194 extracted record. Andrew Thomson married 12.12.1784 Lonmay Anne Park Lonmay M112192 extracted record. This could help with John Thomson marrying Ann Garden possibly. Roslyn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schani Biermann" <ussenterprise1701@accesscomm.ca> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:23 PM Subject: [ABERDEEN] St. peters cemetery, aberdeen >i have some burial records from St. Peter's cemetery, Aberdeen > > can anyone identify or make a connection in their own research to the > following marriages: > > a.. Barbara Garden married Thomas Davie 4.8.1824 St. Nicholas Blotter & > Scroll, Aberdeen > b.. Ann Garden married James Gossip 21.1.1834 St. Nicholas, Aberdeen > c.. Ann Garden married John Thomsom 1818 St. Nicholas Blotter & Scroll, > Aberdeen > d.. Mary Forbes (b. ca 1756) = John garden > e.. Ann Forbes (b. ca 1743) = James Garden > f.. rachael garden (b. ca 1787) = George McLean > g.. Margaret garden ( b. ca 1833)= james Grant > h.. Violet garden (b. ca 1740) = Alex Rhind > i.. James Garden = Elizabeth Cobban ( m. ca 1806) > j.. Ann garden (b. ca 1763) = John cruickshank > k.. Ann garden (b. ca 1803) = James Smith > all interested listers can reply off list if they want or share their > research on the list > > any help would be appreciated so i can establish connections to othr > Gardens and allied families > > Schani Biermann, canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Roslyn, thought i would "post" to the list never know what person is also investigating similar names, etc! Schani ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Garden" <gardeng@optusnet.com.au> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] St. peters cemetery, aberdeen > Schani, > > Found the following on the IGI: > > Andrew Thomson had the following children: > 1. John 1.12.1785 Lonmay C112194 extracted record > 2. Mary 22.2.1788 Lonmay C112194 extracted record > 3. Robert 13.4.1790 Lonmay C112194 extracted record > 4. Anne 1.6.1792 Lonmay C112194 extracted record > 5. Robert 9.6.1794 Lonmay C112194 extracted record. > > Andrew Thomson married 12.12.1784 Lonmay Anne Park Lonmay M112192 > extracted > record. > > This could help with John Thomson marrying Ann Garden possibly. > > Roslyn. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Schani Biermann" <ussenterprise1701@accesscomm.ca> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:23 PM > Subject: [ABERDEEN] St. peters cemetery, aberdeen > > >>i have some burial records from St. Peter's cemetery, Aberdeen >> >> can anyone identify or make a connection in their own research to the >> following marriages: >> >> a.. Barbara Garden married Thomas Davie 4.8.1824 St. Nicholas Blotter & >> Scroll, Aberdeen >> b.. Ann Garden married James Gossip 21.1.1834 St. Nicholas, Aberdeen >> c.. Ann Garden married John Thomsom 1818 St. Nicholas Blotter & Scroll, >> Aberdeen >> d.. Mary Forbes (b. ca 1756) = John garden >> e.. Ann Forbes (b. ca 1743) = James Garden >> f.. rachael garden (b. ca 1787) = George McLean >> g.. Margaret garden ( b. ca 1833)= james Grant >> h.. Violet garden (b. ca 1740) = Alex Rhind >> i.. James Garden = Elizabeth Cobban ( m. ca 1806) >> j.. Ann garden (b. ca 1763) = John cruickshank >> k.. Ann garden (b. ca 1803) = James Smith >> all interested listers can reply off list if they want or share their >> research on the list >> >> any help would be appreciated so i can establish connections to othr >> Gardens and allied families >> >> Schani Biermann, canada >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jenny, Did any of your Bremners have connections with a Myers family from either Pennsylvania or Florida? Kind Regards   Marina

i have some burial records from St. Peter's cemetery, Aberdeen can anyone identify or make a connection in their own research to the following marriages: a.. Barbara Garden married Thomas Davie 4.8.1824 St. Nicholas Blotter & Scroll, Aberdeen b.. Ann Garden married James Gossip 21.1.1834 St. Nicholas, Aberdeen c.. Ann Garden married John Thomsom 1818 St. Nicholas Blotter & Scroll, Aberdeen d.. Mary Forbes (b. ca 1756) = John garden e.. Ann Forbes (b. ca 1743) = James Garden f.. rachael garden (b. ca 1787) = George McLean g.. Margaret garden ( b. ca 1833)= james Grant h.. Violet garden (b. ca 1740) = Alex Rhind i.. James Garden = Elizabeth Cobban ( m. ca 1806) j.. Ann garden (b. ca 1763) = John cruickshank k.. Ann garden (b. ca 1803) = James Smith all interested listers can reply off list if they want or share their research on the list any help would be appreciated so i can establish connections to othr Gardens and allied families Schani Biermann, canada

Marina do you have any earlier information on you BREMNER family? My earliest BREMNER family had its origins in Cawdor NAIRN c1725, their dau Janet mar 1766 in Inverness. Regards Jenny

Here's one for you: My GGGG aunt Grace MCBAIN (b. 1826 to John MCBAIN in Old Machar)  had already been married (recorded in the OPRs) in Aberdeen to a combmaker named William CUMMING: Spouse:  WILLIAM CUMMING Family   Marriage:  24 JUL 1852   Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland I know she and William had one kid - anyhow, it appears the two quickly parted ways but their is no record of any divorce... I could not find them together in any census - a little more sleuthing and I found Grace listed as a "Mrs. McBAIN" for the next 30 years on the Dundee census, apparently married to her cousin John MCBAIN, from 1861 to 1891. She is listed as married on the census. Then, Grace OFFICIALLY married her cousin John MCBAIN in the Church of Scotland in Dundee in 1894. She listed herself on the certificate as a "spinster"! William Cumming must have just died before that so I guess maybe she and John wanted to legitimize their "habit and repute" without having William show up and wrecking the whole thing? or maybe her first marriage never really was wrapped up ie dropped prematurely? Cam Mcbain ________________________________ From: D MCKENZIE <lor633@btinternet.com> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 11:10:24 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Marriage by Habit and REpute Does any one actually know of a couple who were married by habit and repute? Would be intersesting to hear of this. Lorraine

Have you looked at the Brebner/Bremner web site below. http://www.brebner.com They may have some information for you. Richard

Hi Jenny, Yes I have the information on the Bremner family prior to their immigration to the States, but I am afraid they have no connection to any Bremners from Cawdor, Nairn or Inverness. Sorry. Kind Regards   Marina

Hi Laura, Many thanks for searching newspaper archives for me. I greatly appreciate your help. In my hurry to get the email away yesterday I see I made at least one error. Sorry about that. This is what I have on the family to date. Elizabeth Agnes Bremner B 11 Dec 1892 Turriff - found on NY Passenger list arriving NY 25 June 1922 from Glasgow A sewing maid travelling to her sister Mrs Annie Douglas, 4110 Keokuk St. Cherry Chase, Washington D.C. I found her again on UK Incoming Passenger list arriving Glasgow 3 August 1925 from NY travelling to her parents in Glasgow. Her occupation then was Clerk. She travelled back to NY arriving there 21 Sept 1925 destination again Washington DC brother in law Alexander Douglas, 4110 Military Road. Washington D.C. Her occupation again given as a Clerk. That is all the information I have on her. Her sister Patricia b 15 Jan 1889 Turriff arrived on April 8 1913 and she married Stafford J. Coulter and they lived in Sewickley Borough, Allegheny County PA. I have now found them on the 1920 and 1930 census and also on various passenger lists back and forth from NY to Glasgow. Her sister Margaret b Feb 27 1879 and married to Robert Adair Rae - they lived in Ambridge Borough, Beaver County PA. I have yet to discover when Margaret arrived in the States. I have found then on the 1910/1920/1930 census and also on passenger lists between NY and Glasgow. Their brother William b 24 Oct 1886 arrived NY from Glasgow 15 April 1907 and I found him with the Rae family in Ambridge PA on the 1910 census and later on the 1920 & 30 censuses with his wife Stella or Estella still in Ambridge, PA plus WW1/WW1 Draft Registration Cards. If anyone is researching this family, I would be delighted to hear from them. Kind Regards Marina

Hi, Marina, The 1930 US Census was recently released and not all states are completely indexed yet.  So my views pretty much stop at 1920 for that.  Since she arrived in 1922 the census won't be a big help.  Much of the info from that time period is still protected by privacy laws so it is not readily available. I did not find her listed on any of the cemetery records on line...but unfortunately most cemetary records are not on line.  The 1910 census will indicate the year a person arrived for the first time in the US.  So that should help you find when Margaret arrived in the US.  You seem to have access to the US census so I won't go there for info, it would be redundant. There is a site called www.switchboard.com  If someone is listed in a US phone directory they will be listed there for an address and phone number usually.  You may try looking for living descendants with the same name in the same towns.  Then I would send them a letter (sometimes with all the scams out there a phone call can scare them) and see if you did indeed find a family member.  If they want to respond they will.  Good luck!  If I stumble upon anything I will let you know.  Laura ________________________________ From: Marina Alexander <doric@jbalex.wanadoo.co.uk> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:41:29 AM Subject: [ABERDEEN] Re Bremner family from Turriff Hi Laura, Many thanks for searching newspaper archives for me.  I greatly appreciate your help. In my hurry to get the email away yesterday I see I made at least one error.  Sorry about that. This is what I have on the family to date. Elizabeth Agnes Bremner B 11 Dec 1892 Turriff - found on NY Passenger list arriving NY 25 June 1922 from Glasgow  A sewing maid travelling to her sister Mrs Annie Douglas, 4110 Keokuk St. Cherry Chase, Washington D.C. I found her again on UK Incoming Passenger list arriving Glasgow 3 August 1925 from NY travelling to her parents in Glasgow.  Her occupation then was Clerk. She travelled back to NY arriving there 21 Sept 1925 destination again Washington DC brother in law Alexander Douglas, 4110 Military Road. Washington D.C.  Her occupation again given as a Clerk.  That is all the information I have on her. Her sister Patricia b 15 Jan 1889 Turriff arrived on April 8 1913 and she married Stafford J. Coulter and they lived in Sewickley Borough, Allegheny County PA.  I have now found them on the 1920 and 1930 census and also on various passenger lists back and forth from NY to Glasgow. Her sister Margaret b Feb 27 1879 and married to Robert Adair Rae  - they lived in Ambridge Borough, Beaver County PA.  I have yet to discover when Margaret arrived in the States.  I have found then on the 1910/1920/1930 census and also on passenger lists between NY and Glasgow. Their brother William b 24 Oct 1886 arrived NY from Glasgow 15 April 1907 and I found him with the Rae family in Ambridge PA on the 1910 census and later on the 1920 & 30 censuses with his wife Stella or Estella still in Ambridge, PA plus WW1/WW1 Draft Registration Cards. If anyone is researching this family, I would be delighted to hear from them. Kind Regards Marina ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any body else feel that to continue to discuss this topic under the Subject heading of Morrison is a slight misrepresentation? Please can we keep the subject headings to something that is more relevant and/or direct to the topic being discussed? ta Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "marion wakeford" <marion.wakeford@gmail.com> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Morrison > Hi Carol, > yes I am, the story I have is that the Waddell's moved to Mull in 1828 > from > Edinburgh,where David Waddell was a shoemaker, living in the gatehouse at > Coll House, I have been trying to locate it as the story goes, its near > Tobermory, then they emigrated to Australia in 1838 > > Regards > Marion > Sydney > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:19 PM, <CABWEBB@aol.com> wrote: > >> Could you be referring to the Island of Mull? >> >> Carol >> >> >> In a message dated 3/1/2010 2:50:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> g.bell@which.net writes: >> >> marion wakeford wrote: >> >> >> > The Waddells moved to Mull in 1828, I've tried googling Coll House >> > but haven't had any success. >> >> >> I can find no such place on any of the maps I have access to. How long >> did they remain in Mull/Coll? If they were still there in 1841, they >> should appear in the Census, which might help to locate them. >> >> >> Gavin Bell >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Marion > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 07:27:00

Hi Carol, yes I am, the story I have is that the Waddell's moved to Mull in 1828 from Edinburgh,where David Waddell was a shoemaker, living in the gatehouse at Coll House, I have been trying to locate it as the story goes, its near Tobermory, then they emigrated to Australia in 1838 Regards Marion Sydney On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:19 PM, <CABWEBB@aol.com> wrote: > Could you be referring to the Island of Mull? > > Carol > > > In a message dated 3/1/2010 2:50:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > g.bell@which.net writes: > > marion wakeford wrote: > > > > The Waddells moved to Mull in 1828, I've tried googling Coll House > > but haven't had any success. > > > I can find no such place on any of the maps I have access to. How long > did they remain in Mull/Coll? If they were still there in 1841, they > should appear in the Census, which might help to locate them. > > > Gavin Bell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marion

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:06 AM, marion wakeford <marion.wakeford@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi Gavin, > thanks, for looking I really appreciate it, they left Mull/Coll in July > 1838 and arrived in Sydney Nov 1838. > > I'm not sure where to go from here. Maybe I'll just go to Tobermory and > look around there and get the feel of the place, you have to be a detective > don't you. > > Regards > Marion > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Gavin Bell <g.bell@which.net> wrote: > >> marion wakeford wrote: >> >> >> > The Waddells moved to Mull in 1828, I've tried googling Coll House >> > but haven't had any success. >> >> >> I can find no such place on any of the maps I have access to. How long >> did they remain in Mull/Coll? If they were still there in 1841, they >> should appear in the Census, which might help to locate them. >> >> >> Gavin Bell >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Marion > -- Marion

Hi Gavin, thanks, for looking I really appreciate it, they left Mull/Coll in July 1838 and arrived in Sydney Nov 1838. I'm not sure where to go from here. Maybe I'll just go to Tobermory and look around there Regards Marion On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Gavin Bell <g.bell@which.net> wrote: > marion wakeford wrote: > > > > The Waddells moved to Mull in 1828, I've tried googling Coll House > > but haven't had any success. > > > I can find no such place on any of the maps I have access to. How long > did they remain in Mull/Coll? If they were still there in 1841, they > should appear in the Census, which might help to locate them. > > > Gavin Bell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marion

Hi Ray/Gavin, thanks for your help. The Waddells moved to Mull in 1828, I've tried googling Coll House but haven't had any success, I'd really appreciate any help as I'm going to Scotland in May and would love to go to see where my family came from. Regards Marion On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Ray Hennessy <ray@whatsinaname.net> wrote: > On 1 March 2010 11:14, marion wakeford <marion.wakeford@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have another query I'm also looking at the Waddell family and I've been > told that John and Elizabeth Waddell moved from Edinburgh to live at the > gatehouse at Coll House near Tobermory. John Waddell was a shoemaker to > Hugh > MacLean. > > > > Do you think that means that they moved to the Isle of Coll and not Mull? > ________________________________________ > > Hi Marion > > I think this is one for Gavin who is King of the Maps. However if you were > told it was near Tobermory then I would have thought that Mull would be > favourite. > > I've had a brief look at the Scottish 1890s maps on-line but haven't been > able to find "Coll House". > > Gavin has much bigger screens on his computers so should be able to provide > a better view of the placenames. > > When did the WADDELLs move there? A date might help a lot to decide which > maps to look at. > > Ray > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marion

Hi, I am trying to find descendants of the following: Patricia Gibson Bremner b 15 Jan 1889 28 Chapel St. Turriff and Elizabeth Agnes Bremner b Dec 11 1892 at same address, daughters of Peter Bremner and Christina Paterson M June 8 1878 New Byth. Both went to Pennsylvania, USA where Patricia married Stafford Coulter. I have most of the information on this family taken from Ancestry. However I cannot trace Elizabeth apart from finding her on Passenger lists one which states she is going to her sister Margaret Douglas in Washington DC. It would seem most of the children of Peter and Christina Bremner immigrated to various parts of the USA. If anyone is researching this family, I would be pleased to hear from them. Kind Regards   Marina

Hi, Marina, I did a search of census records up through 1920 for Douglas and  Bremner (I also looked at Bremmer) for the District of Columbia (Wash DC), Virginia, and Maryland bordering states.  I did not find you Patricia or Margaret there.  Then I did a search in the newspaper archives (but not everything is archived) and I also did not find them here.  Sorry I could not help you in your search.  There is a genealogical society in Washington DC, one in Maryland, and one in Virginia.  She could be in any of those places or moved someplace entirely different.  When did she come to the US?  You gave her date of birth but not her date of emmigration.  Also, did she have an occupation? Laura ________________________________ From: Marina Alexander <doric@jbalex.wanadoo.co.uk> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 2:09:21 AM Subject: [ABERDEEN] Bremner family Turriff Aberdeenshire Hi, I am trying to find descendants of the following:  Patricia Gibson Bremner b 15 Jan 1889  28 Chapel St. Turriff  and Elizabeth Agnes Bremner b Dec 11 1892 at same address, daughters of Peter Bremner and Christina Paterson M June 8 1878 New Byth. Both went to Pennsylvania, USA where Patricia married Stafford Coulter.  I have most of the information on this family taken from Ancestry.  However I cannot trace Elizabeth apart from finding her on Passenger lists one which states she is going to her sister Margaret Douglas in Washington DC.  It would seem most of the children of Peter and Christina Bremner immigrated to various parts of the USA.  If anyone is researching this family, I would be pleased to hear from them. Kind Regards   Marina ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

marion wakeford wrote: > The Waddells moved to Mull in 1828, I've tried googling Coll House > but haven't had any success. I can find no such place on any of the maps I have access to. How long did they remain in Mull/Coll? If they were still there in 1841, they should appear in the Census, which might help to locate them. Gavin Bell

Could you be referring to the Island of Mull? Carol In a message dated 3/1/2010 2:50:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, g.bell@which.net writes: marion wakeford wrote: > The Waddells moved to Mull in 1828, I've tried googling Coll House > but haven't had any success. I can find no such place on any of the maps I have access to. How long did they remain in Mull/Coll? If they were still there in 1841, they should appear in the Census, which might help to locate them. Gavin Bell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ray, thanks very much. I have another query I'm also looking at the Waddell family and I've been told that John and Elizabeth Waddell moved from Edinburgh to live at the gatehouse at Coll House near Tobermory. John Waddell was a shoemaker to Hugh MacLean. Do you think that means that they moved to the Isle of Coll and not Mull? Reagards Marion On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Ray Hennessy <ray@whatsinaname.net> wrote: > On 1 March 2010 03:20, marion wakeford <marion.wakeford@gmail.com> wrote: > > Re: Finding whole families on the IGI > --------------------------------------------- > > > thanks for your advice, no I didn't know you could do that, I think I'm > in > for some fun, now > ___________________________________________________ > Hi Marion > > You can find out all sorts of families that way - providing they stay in > the > same parish, of course. If they move around you may need to look at > several > batches. And remember that spellings can vary from place-to-place, > scribe-to-scribe and even day-to-day. Beware when only the father is named > that there may be more than one man with that name inthe parish. > > The other thing is that each film only covers a certain period . To find > out the "other" batch numbers for a parish, use the index for Family > Search. I have the Scotland batch numbers from Hugh Wallis as a short url > which anyone can use at > > http://bit.ly/IGIbatches. > > When you drill down to the county and then the parish, the list of batch > numbers shows the dates covered. But note that some dates are covered by > more than one film of each type [C for Christenings/births/baptisms & M for > Marriages]. > > Have fun!! > > Ray > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marion