Alexander Bisset A-Bisset@aberdeen-harbour.co.uk wrote: << ....the original poster DID NOT ASK for something that can take anyone you choose and produce a descendant tree, almost all FT programs can do that. What he asked was a program that searched ALL of your most distant ancestors and produced a report for the lot of them in one go. That is radically different from MANUALLY searching for the top of each tree and MANUALLY clicking to produce a descendant report for each line. Sadly I know of no such program. .....>> I suggest anyone interested in such a program have a look at what is offered at www.spansoft.org This Scottish genealogy software company offer two programs (Kith & Kin and TreeDraw). K&K will take a gedcom as input and construct a database grapically represented as a family-name tree for each family listed. TD imports its data from K&K and draws various charts starting with a chosen individual (mainly descendant and ancestor charts). If that isn't clear enough it will become clearer when examining the program.  I'm not claiming that this pair of programs will 'tick all your boxes', all I'm saying is that I have used them for many years now through all their development and have yet to hear of anything better for the price. SpanSoft offer downloadable trial copies of both programs.  Cheers, Sandy

However the original poster DID NOT ASK for something that can take anyone you choose and produce a descendant tree, almost all FT programs can do that. What he asked was a program that searched ALL of your most distant ancestors and produced a report for the lot of them in one go. That is radically different from MANUALLY searching for the top of each tree and MANUALLY clicking to produce a descendant report for each line. Sadly I know of no such program. Most programs work on the basis of producing ancestor or descendant reports based off a starting individual. I've not seen one that automatically trawls your database and gets the most distant ancestors from each branch. I have however got a "treetops" report on my list of things to add to my FT Analysis program I'm writing. This little program takes a Gedcom 5.0 or 5.5 file and produces various reports. At present they are lists of "loose deaths" (people who you know death information for but their death entry hasn't got that data explicitly recorded), lists of locations sorted by country, region(county/state), parish etc. Lists of people at those locations. Lists of people who according to your Gedcom may have been alive at a specific date but for whom you have no census info. This is particularly useful for remembering to add people to http://www.lostcousins.com etc. A "treetops" report is on my to do list this is a list of all the people who are direct ancestors at the top of your tree. Effectively a treetops report would list all of your most distant direct ancestors you have found for every branch of your tree. This would not do what the original poster asked but it might at least make the process of producing the manual reports somewhat easier as you'd have a list of who to start your reports from. -- Alexander Bisset IT Administrator Aberdeen Harbour Board -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Forsberg Sent: 10 March 2010 01:47 To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software Hi all, I have the PAF 5 version and it works just fine - will do all you ask. This is free from the IGI. I am running on a older version of Windows (can't remember what it is called - a "senior's moment" I'm afraid). It is not Vista - the one before it. PAF 5 and its upgrades will produce beautiful "modified registers" for anyone in the database. Cheers, Carol On 10 March 2010 09:59, Gordon McLeod <gordon@shieldaig.com> wrote: > One thing to consider, whichever, software you use is whether or not your > Windows operating system is 64bit or 32bit.  Many of the older programs work > if you installed or had installed Windows 7 32bit but don't worked at all if > you install Windows 7 64bit. > > Gordon > > -----Original Message----- > From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Isobel Davidson > Sent: March-09-10 3:34 PM > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > I have windows 7 and, because I have never liked FTM2008 tried the previous > version first - which doesn't work on vista.  Works perfectly on Windows 7 > so I am now very happy! > > Isobel > > -----Original Message----- > From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of ann zeman > Sent: 09 March 2010 21:57 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > I just got a new laptop with Windows 7; found my Family Tree Maker software > wasn't compatible; contacted the FTM company to see if there was a software > patch; NO, there wasn't. I had to buy a new Family Tree Maker, which I > installed, However! It won't open any of my old FTM files. > Big sigh. I have to wait to have a free 4 or 5 hours (and a quiet mind) to > try to phone FTM back and see if there's a solution. Isn't technology > interesting. > Ann Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M Keith Abel" <kabel@kingston.net> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > >> Dear Colin: >> >> I am using a program which will do exactly as you describe but I suspect >> it >> is all obsolete now.  The Genealogy Program was Personal Ancestral File >> Version 2.3 >> >> A program called "Pafability" written by an American Woman,   I believe in >> Washington DC,   was capable of reading the files produced by PAF 3 and >> assembling fully and beautifully worded reports beginning with anyone of >> your choosing.   Unfortunately Paf 3 would not work with any version of >> Windows and as far as I know, the versions of PAF that do work with >> Windows >> have a different File Structure and don't work with Pafability. >> >> A complication of my own:   the printer that works on the computer with my >> genealogy program has gone into a sulk and won't print anything.  I think >> all it needs is a cleaning out but I haven't found anyone to clean out an >> antique printer. >> >> Perhaps someone out there knows if the newer versions of PAF that operate >> with Windows have the very fine report generating capability that >> "Pafability" had. >> >> M Keith Abel >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Colin Speed" <colin@caspeed.co.uk> >> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com>; <angus@rootsweb.com>; <sct-fife@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:51 PM >> Subject: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software >> >> >> > Some years ago I had a family tree program which could generate >> > descendant >> > reports for my entire database automatically. 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Ann Zeman said - Just got a new laptop with Windows 7; found my Family Tree Maker software wasn't compatible; [snip] It won't open any of my old FTM files. I, too, have just got a new laptop with Windows 7. FTM 2005 certainly installed OK and opens the files. I haven't tried printing or trees yet. What version of FTM do you have? Steve

Dear Mr Bisset: The program I referred to, "PAFability", would produce reports of single ancestor descendants or a report of all ancestors depending on the options chosen. If I started with myself, I could get a report that listed all of my ancestors and all of their descendants. If I started with one of my children it would list in addition, all of my wife's ancestors and all of their descendants as well as mine. If I started with my youngest grandchild, I would get a report that includes virtually everyone in my file (35,000 people and nearly 3000 pages. Fortunately the printer currently sulking, printed 9 pages per minute) There is a copy I produced some years ago in the Public Library in Sudbury, Ontario. My file includes ancestors of a brother-in-law which, not being my ancestors, will not appear in the file. When it reported on my sister, it would report the name of her husband and that he was the son of his parents, but pursue his line no further. If I started with a nephew son of that brother-in-law, it would report all of his ancestors first, then give all of my sisters ancestors which part would be identical to a report starting with me. Depending on whom you started with and how many generations to report, it was possible to produce a report of very specifically a particular family group, such as a report for a cousin found on the Aberdeen list. If I started the report with the common ancestor I could produce one that included only those persons in my tree that are also in his tree. Referring to the reply from "Carol", Her reference to a "Modified Register Report" sounds rather like Latter Day Saints, in writing a windows compatible version, incorporated all of the features of "PAFability". In this context a "Register" report is one in the format of the New England Genealogical Register. "Modified" indicates that the report will pursue female descendants as well as male. The original Register format pursued only male descendants. In fact if I cannot get the printer attached to the antique computer running on DOS 6, up and running again , it is probable I ought to install a newer version of PAF on the machine running on Windows XP. I would do this only if the Register Format reports were available in the newer versions of PAF. I was surprised at the listers who had trouble transferring the files from one genealogy program to another. Doing this was the original intention of the Gedcom File. If both programs are compatible with Gedcom Files there should be no problem. M Keith Abel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Bisset" <A-Bisset@aberdeen-harbour.co.uk> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > However the original poster DID NOT ASK for something that can take anyone > you choose and produce a descendant tree, almost all FT programs can do > that. What he asked was a program that searched ALL of your most distant > ancestors and produced a report for the lot of them in one go. That is > radically different from MANUALLY searching for the top of each tree and > MANUALLY clicking to produce a descendant report for each line. > > Sadly I know of no such program. Most programs work on the basis of > producing ancestor or descendant reports based off a starting individual. > I've not seen one that automatically trawls your database and gets the > most distant ancestors from each branch. > > I have however got a "treetops" report on my list of things to add to my > FT Analysis program I'm writing. This little program takes a Gedcom 5.0 or > 5.5 file and produces various reports. At present they are lists of "loose > deaths" (people who you know death information for but their death entry > hasn't got that data explicitly recorded), lists of locations sorted by > country, region(county/state), parish etc. Lists of people at those > locations. Lists of people who according to your Gedcom may have been > alive at a specific date but for whom you have no census info. This is > particularly useful for remembering to add people to > http://www.lostcousins.com etc. > > A "treetops" report is on my to do list this is a list of all the people > who are direct ancestors at the top of your tree. Effectively a treetops > report would list all of your most distant direct ancestors you have found > for every branch of your tree. This would not do what the original poster > asked but it might at least make the process of producing the manual > reports somewhat easier as you'd have a list of who to start your reports > from. > > -- > Alexander Bisset > IT Administrator Aberdeen Harbour Board > > -----Original Message----- > From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Ray Forsberg > Sent: 10 March 2010 01:47 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > Hi all, > > I have the PAF 5 version and it works just fine - will do all you > ask. This is free from the IGI. I am running on a older version of > Windows (can't remember what it is called - a "senior's moment" I'm > afraid). It is not Vista - the one before it. PAF 5 and its upgrades > will produce beautiful "modified registers" for anyone in the > database. > > Cheers, > > Carol > >> On 10 March 2010 09:59, Gordon McLeod <gordon@shieldaig.com> wrote: >> One thing to consider, whichever, software you use is whether or not your >> Windows operating system is 64bit or 32bit. Many of the older programs >> work >> if you installed or had installed Windows 7 32bit but don't worked at all >> if >> you install Windows 7 64bit. >> >> Gordon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Isobel Davidson >> Sent: March-09-10 3:34 PM >> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software >> >> I have windows 7 and, because I have never liked FTM2008 tried the >> previous >> version first - which doesn't work on vista. Works perfectly on Windows 7 >> so I am now very happy! >> >> Isobel >> >> Ann Zeman wrote on March 2010 21:57 >> >> I just got a new laptop with Windows 7; found my Family Tree Maker >> software >> wasn't compatible; contacted the FTM company to see if there was a >> software >> patch; NO, there wasn't. I had to buy a new Family Tree Maker, which I >> installed, However! It won't open any of my old FTM files. >> Big sigh. I have to wait to have a free 4 or 5 hours (and a quiet mind) >> to >> try to phone FTM back and see if there's a solution. Isn't technology >> interesting. >> Ann Z >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "M Keith Abel" <kabel@kingston.net> >> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software >> >> >>> Dear Colin: >>> >>> I am using a program which will do exactly as you describe but I suspect >>> it is all obsolete now. The Genealogy Program was Personal Ancestral >>> File Version 2.3 >>> >>> A program called "Pafability" written by an American Woman, I believe in >>> Washington DC, was capable of reading the files produced by PAF 3 and >>> assembling fully and beautifully worded reports beginning with anyone of >>> your choosing. Unfortunately Paf 3 would not work with any version of >>> Windows and as far as I know, the versions of PAF that do work with >>> Windows have a different File Structure and don't work with Pafability. >>> >>> A complication of my own: the printer that works on the computer with my >>> genealogy program has gone into a sulk and won't print anything. I think >>> all it needs is a cleaning out but I haven't found anyone to clean out >>> an >>> antique printer. >>> >>> Perhaps someone out there knows if the newer versions of PAF that >>> operate >>> with Windows have the very fine report generating capability that >>> "Pafability" had. >>> >>> M Keith Abel >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Colin Speed" <colin@caspeed.co.uk> >>> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com>; <angus@rootsweb.com>; >>> <sct-fife@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:51 PM >>> Subject: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software >>> >>> >>> > Some years ago I had a family tree program which could generate >>> > descendant >>> > reports for my entire database automatically. That is to say that it >>> > would >>> > analyse the database and work out the oldest memn=bers of each line, >>> > then >>> > start a new chapter for that line. >>> > >>> > Is there any existing program which will do this nowadays, preferrable >>> > not >>> > too expensive. My old programme was not compatable with a Windows >>> > Update >>> > (it >>> > was Windows 95 or (* I thing) >>> > >>> > Many thanks >>> > >>> > Colin >>> >

Brilliant. Thanks, Alexander. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Bisset" <A-Bisset@aberdeen-harbour.co.uk> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > FTM 2010 doesn't open FTM 2006 files directly (aka FTM v16) but it will > most certainly import them without ANY problems. Just select "Import as > New Tree" from the file menu. > > -- > Alexander Bisset > IT Administrator Aberdeen Harbour Board > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of ann zeman > Sent: 10 March 2010 15:13 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > The problem seems to be that I have 64 bit Windows 7. The new software > that > I had to buy is Family Tree Maker 2010. The 2010 won't recognise the files > made by the old version 16. I'm going to tackle some of the helpful > suggestions this morning. > Ann > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This message has been checked by Dionach for all known viruses using > MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit > http://www.dionach.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The problem seems to be that I have 64 bit Windows 7. The new software that I had to buy is Family Tree Maker 2010. The 2010 won't recognise the files made by the old version 16. I'm going to tackle some of the helpful suggestions this morning. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Broekmann" <lawmen@iafrica.com> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > Ann Zeman said - Just got a new laptop with Windows 7; found my Family > Tree > Maker software > wasn't compatible; [snip] It won't open any of my old FTM files. > > > I, too, have just got a new laptop with Windows 7. FTM 2005 certainly > installed OK and opens the files. I haven't tried printing or trees yet. > What version of FTM do you have? > > Steve > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

PAF is regularly updated and downloadable to any computer. No cost. Use the link on the www.familysearch.org site and you can select the download by what type of computer you have--which specific windows version of your p.c. you've got, or Apple if that's what you have. I believe there's now a PAF 5.5 version, so whoever is struggling with PAF 3, take heart!

I have windows 7 and, because I have never liked FTM2008 tried the previous version first - which doesn't work on vista. Works perfectly on Windows 7 so I am now very happy! Isobel -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ann zeman Sent: 09 March 2010 21:57 To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software I just got a new laptop with Windows 7; found my Family Tree Maker software wasn't compatible; contacted the FTM company to see if there was a software patch; NO, there wasn't. I had to buy a new Family Tree Maker, which I installed, However! It won't open any of my old FTM files. Big sigh. I have to wait to have a free 4 or 5 hours (and a quiet mind) to try to phone FTM back and see if there's a solution. Isn't technology interesting. Ann Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Keith Abel" <kabel@kingston.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > Dear Colin: > > I am using a program which will do exactly as you describe but I suspect > it > is all obsolete now. The Genealogy Program was Personal Ancestral File > Version 2.3 > > A program called "Pafability" written by an American Woman, I believe in > Washington DC, was capable of reading the files produced by PAF 3 and > assembling fully and beautifully worded reports beginning with anyone of > your choosing. Unfortunately Paf 3 would not work with any version of > Windows and as far as I know, the versions of PAF that do work with > Windows > have a different File Structure and don't work with Pafability. > > A complication of my own: the printer that works on the computer with my > genealogy program has gone into a sulk and won't print anything. I think > all it needs is a cleaning out but I haven't found anyone to clean out an > antique printer. > > Perhaps someone out there knows if the newer versions of PAF that operate > with Windows have the very fine report generating capability that > "Pafability" had. > > M Keith Abel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Speed" <colin@caspeed.co.uk> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com>; <angus@rootsweb.com>; <sct-fife@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:51 PM > Subject: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > > > Some years ago I had a family tree program which could generate > > descendant > > reports for my entire database automatically. That is to say that it > > would > > analyse the database and work out the oldest memn=bers of each line, > > then > > start a new chapter for that line. > > > > Is there any existing program which will do this nowadays, preferrable > > not > > too expensive. My old programme was not compatable with a Windows Update > > (it > > was Windows 95 or (* I thing) > > > > Many thanks > > > > Colin > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2727 - Release Date: 03/06/10 19:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2727 - Release Date: 03/06/10 19:34:00

I have considered that George DICK , who shows 1841 with wife Elspet, may connect to my family. Free census 1851 George Dick born Monquhitter , age 50 yrs., an Ag. Lab. . Wife Elspet age 50 yrs., a Stocking Knitter, born Turriff. Son Alexander unmarried , age 24 yrs., born Turriff. IGI has George DICK & Elspet BRUCE, married in Turriff Nov 1820. 1861 Census ( Ancestry ), has a leap in age for George as age 73 yrs., Elspet age 61 , & Daughters Sophia age 33 yrs., Harriett age 26 yrs , both unmarried, Grandchildren Martha CRAIK age 8yrs., James JOHNSTONE age 2 yrs. Do they belong to anyone out there in Research Land ? My DICK family, originally from Banffshire, seemed to be the only lot in Monquhitter in my early & mid 1800's research, s o, where did this George come from ?. George was a family name , with many lines having the name. Mary New Zealand

If you have the latest FTM 2010 you can check the help at the top of the window and then click Getting started. Now click to import a tree. You have to have a FTM newer than 5.0. If older you can downloaded 5.0 and uses it to copy your files to it and then to 2010. If you have a newer version it is a matter of Clicking on "To Import a Tree". I have Win 7, 64 bit and this worked great for me. Hope this helps.

Some years ago I had a family tree program which could generate descendant reports for my entire database automatically. That is to say that it would analyse the database and work out the oldest memn=bers of each line, then start a new chapter for that line. Is there any existing program which will do this nowadays, preferrable not too expensive. My old programme was not compatable with a Windows Update (it was Windows 95 or (* I thing) Many thanks Colin

One thing to consider, whichever, software you use is whether or not your Windows operating system is 64bit or 32bit. Many of the older programs work if you installed or had installed Windows 7 32bit but don't worked at all if you install Windows 7 64bit. Gordon -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Isobel Davidson Sent: March-09-10 3:34 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software I have windows 7 and, because I have never liked FTM2008 tried the previous version first - which doesn't work on vista. Works perfectly on Windows 7 so I am now very happy! Isobel -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ann zeman Sent: 09 March 2010 21:57 To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software I just got a new laptop with Windows 7; found my Family Tree Maker software wasn't compatible; contacted the FTM company to see if there was a software patch; NO, there wasn't. I had to buy a new Family Tree Maker, which I installed, However! It won't open any of my old FTM files. Big sigh. I have to wait to have a free 4 or 5 hours (and a quiet mind) to try to phone FTM back and see if there's a solution. Isn't technology interesting. Ann Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Keith Abel" <kabel@kingston.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > Dear Colin: > > I am using a program which will do exactly as you describe but I suspect > it > is all obsolete now. The Genealogy Program was Personal Ancestral File > Version 2.3 > > A program called "Pafability" written by an American Woman, I believe in > Washington DC, was capable of reading the files produced by PAF 3 and > assembling fully and beautifully worded reports beginning with anyone of > your choosing. Unfortunately Paf 3 would not work with any version of > Windows and as far as I know, the versions of PAF that do work with > Windows > have a different File Structure and don't work with Pafability. > > A complication of my own: the printer that works on the computer with my > genealogy program has gone into a sulk and won't print anything. I think > all it needs is a cleaning out but I haven't found anyone to clean out an > antique printer. > > Perhaps someone out there knows if the newer versions of PAF that operate > with Windows have the very fine report generating capability that > "Pafability" had. > > M Keith Abel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Speed" <colin@caspeed.co.uk> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com>; <angus@rootsweb.com>; <sct-fife@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:51 PM > Subject: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > > > Some years ago I had a family tree program which could generate > > descendant > > reports for my entire database automatically. That is to say that it > > would > > analyse the database and work out the oldest memn=bers of each line, > > then > > start a new chapter for that line. > > > > Is there any existing program which will do this nowadays, preferrable > > not > > too expensive. My old programme was not compatable with a Windows Update > > (it > > was Windows 95 or (* I thing) > > > > Many thanks > > > > Colin > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2727 - Release Date: 03/06/10 19:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2727 - Release Date: 03/06/10 19:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2732 - Release Date: 03/09/10 00:33:00

Dear Colin: I am using a program which will do exactly as you describe but I suspect it is all obsolete now. The Genealogy Program was Personal Ancestral File Version 2.3 A program called "Pafability" written by an American Woman, I believe in Washington DC, was capable of reading the files produced by PAF 3 and assembling fully and beautifully worded reports beginning with anyone of your choosing. Unfortunately Paf 3 would not work with any version of Windows and as far as I know, the versions of PAF that do work with Windows have a different File Structure and don't work with Pafability. A complication of my own: the printer that works on the computer with my genealogy program has gone into a sulk and won't print anything. I think all it needs is a cleaning out but I haven't found anyone to clean out an antique printer. Perhaps someone out there knows if the newer versions of PAF that operate with Windows have the very fine report generating capability that "Pafability" had. M Keith Abel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Speed" <colin@caspeed.co.uk> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com>; <angus@rootsweb.com>; <sct-fife@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:51 PM Subject: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > Some years ago I had a family tree program which could generate descendant > reports for my entire database automatically. That is to say that it would > analyse the database and work out the oldest memn=bers of each line, then > start a new chapter for that line. > > Is there any existing program which will do this nowadays, preferrable not > too expensive. My old programme was not compatable with a Windows Update > (it > was Windows 95 or (* I thing) > > Many thanks > > Colin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just got a new laptop with Windows 7; found my Family Tree Maker software wasn't compatible; contacted the FTM company to see if there was a software patch; NO, there wasn't. I had to buy a new Family Tree Maker, which I installed, However! It won't open any of my old FTM files. Big sigh. I have to wait to have a free 4 or 5 hours (and a quiet mind) to try to phone FTM back and see if there's a solution. Isn't technology interesting. Ann Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Keith Abel" <kabel@kingston.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > Dear Colin: > > I am using a program which will do exactly as you describe but I suspect > it > is all obsolete now. The Genealogy Program was Personal Ancestral File > Version 2.3 > > A program called "Pafability" written by an American Woman, I believe in > Washington DC, was capable of reading the files produced by PAF 3 and > assembling fully and beautifully worded reports beginning with anyone of > your choosing. Unfortunately Paf 3 would not work with any version of > Windows and as far as I know, the versions of PAF that do work with > Windows > have a different File Structure and don't work with Pafability. > > A complication of my own: the printer that works on the computer with my > genealogy program has gone into a sulk and won't print anything. I think > all it needs is a cleaning out but I haven't found anyone to clean out an > antique printer. > > Perhaps someone out there knows if the newer versions of PAF that operate > with Windows have the very fine report generating capability that > "Pafability" had. > > M Keith Abel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Speed" <colin@caspeed.co.uk> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com>; <angus@rootsweb.com>; <sct-fife@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:51 PM > Subject: [ABERDEEN] Family Tree Software > > > > Some years ago I had a family tree program which could generate > > descendant > > reports for my entire database automatically. That is to say that it > > would > > analyse the database and work out the oldest memn=bers of each line, > > then > > start a new chapter for that line. > > > > Is there any existing program which will do this nowadays, preferrable > > not > > too expensive. My old programme was not compatable with a Windows Update > > (it > > was Windows 95 or (* I thing) > > > > Many thanks > > > > Colin > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I too had questioned whether George could be one of ours - ie a brother for my very illusive John Dick who was living in Monquhitter in the early 1800's with his wife Ann Gill. So I checked him out. His 1865 death cert has him as a pauper & ex ag lab & widow of Elspet Bruce. His parents are given as William Dick & Barbara Lawrence, & the death was registered by Alexander J Dick - brother. William & Barbara married in Alvah Banff 25 Oct 1795. Martha Craik was according to the IGI Turriff register the dau of William Craik & Sophia Dick. I think that the Alexander J Dick was married to Ann Skinner So still no nearer knowing if he is connected to my Dicks! Hope that helps you Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Legarth" <legarthm@levin.pl.net> To: <anesfhs-members@yahoogroups.com> Cc: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:56 AM Subject: [ABERDEEN] DICK , BRUCE, CRAIK, JOHNSTONE >I have considered that George DICK , who shows 1841 with wife Elspet, may > connect to my family. > > Free census 1851 George Dick born Monquhitter , age 50 yrs., an Ag. Lab. > . > > Wife Elspet age 50 yrs., a Stocking Knitter, born Turriff. > > Son Alexander unmarried , age 24 yrs., born Turriff. > > IGI has George DICK & Elspet BRUCE, married in Turriff Nov 1820. > > 1861 Census ( Ancestry ), has a leap in age for George as age 73 yrs., > Elspet age 61 , > > & Daughters Sophia age 33 yrs., Harriett age 26 yrs , both unmarried, > > Grandchildren Martha CRAIK age 8yrs., James JOHNSTONE age 2 yrs. > > > > Do they belong to anyone out there in Research Land ? > > My DICK family, originally from Banffshire, seemed to be the only lot in > Monquhitter in my early & mid 1800's research, s > > o, where did this George come from ?. > > George was a family name , with many lines having the name. > > > > Mary > > New Zealand > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 6 March 2010 13:14, Lois Yunker wrote: This is a test as I haven't gotten any mail this week. > Lois The Aberdeen Archive is at http://bit.ly/Aberdeen-archive or the full url is http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ABERDEEN There have been over 20 messages last week prior to yours. It is always worth checking the Rootsweb archives first. This doesn't explain why these messages haven't been getting through to you but there may be a blockage somewhere in the internet, depending where you are in relation to the Rootsweb servers**. Usually when this happens it eventually gets sorted and the messages all suddenly appear. This is one reason why one sometimes gets messages out of order - they have been corrupted somewhere and the retransmission can take some while to resolve. Hope you have been "caught up" Best wishes Ray ** PS your use of "gotten" suggests you are in the USofA in which case I would have thought you and Rootsweb were both on the same land-mass but, with the internet, one never knows.

to all listers > have returned for some help can anyone help me with the following marriage which i pulled off of Scotlandpeople? i am hitting some brick walls in tracing descendants of this marriage and the possible ancestry of the james Garden who m. Jean Milne ROM: James Garden = Jean Milne > 06/26/1779 Children: a.. Alexander, b. 04/19/1880 b.. James, b.02/27/1782 c.. William, b.01/22/1784 i have some other Banffshire marriages, and list of some of their children, off ScP if anyone wants to reply to me off list Marriages: a.. John Garden = Helen Petrie b.. George Garden = Margaret Reid c.. Alexander Garden = Helen Grant d.. Alexander Garden = Jannet Geddes e.. John Garden = Margaret Craig Schani biermann Canada

Bob Wallace wrote: > On Saturday 06 March 2010 05:14:19 am Lois Yunker wrote: > >> This is a test as I haven't gotten any mail this week. >> > > Seven messages received here on Wednesday, three on Thursday. > > Bob Wallace > Dayton, Nevada > Thanks, Bob. I checked them in the archives. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a test as I haven't gotten any mail this week.

On Saturday 06 March 2010 05:14:19 am Lois Yunker wrote: > This is a test as I haven't gotten any mail this week. Seven messages received here on Wednesday, three on Thursday. Bob Wallace Dayton, Nevada