My wife's Grandmother was born at 33 Manse Street in Fraserburgh on July 23 1889. Is there anyway to determine who else was living there at that time besides Susan Davidson. As far as I can tell from census records Susan may have been there simply to give birth to Isabella. Thanks

Thank you for the information Gavin Bell The pictures credited to you are GREAT ! I have been looking for Death records for William Lumsden and his wife Ann Callum of Stonehaven ~1854. I have found sequential inscriptions in Alvah cemetery in the area of Banff that they came from. Unfortunately there are no dates given. The Stonehaven cemeteries Dunnottar and Fetteresso have nothing. Fetteresso cemetery has no listings of names. Is it on a to do list ? I am trying to get an better idea of just what anesfhs can do for me as a prospective member. The burial ground web site was a jaw dropper when I put in my Grandmothers surname Gerrard in Aberdour. I now have 4 pages and 46 Gerrard's burials to record. Any more pointers would be most welcome. The group has been very helpfull. Jim -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gavin Bell" <g.bell@which.net> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:30 AM To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lumsden in Stonehaven Scotland > Jim Lumsden wrote: > >> Boy that web site is great ! Now I know what MI means. > > > Glad you like it - but note that Ray somewhat overstates my role: > >>>See my other email for instructions on the ANESFHS MI Index >>>[ANESFHS = Aberdeen & North East Scotland Family History Society. They >>>publish booklets of MIs for the north east and elsewhere. These are >>>indexed on-line by Gavin Bell at >>>http://www.abdnet.co.uk/mi-index/ > > The MIs are the work of generations of members of Aberdeen and Northeast > Scotland Family History Society: > > http://www.anesfhs.org.uk > > and while I am ultimately resposible for maintaining the MI Index, that, > too, is the work of many hands. > > >>>The Kirkyards are listed but I don't know which is in >>>Dunnottar parish. You may have to plough through them. > > You can check the locations of all burial grounds in NE Scotland at: > > http://www.abdnet.co.uk/burialgrounds/ > > The town of Stonehaven is, as already been pointed out, split between > the parishes of Dunnottar and Fetteresso, both of whose ancient > kirkyards will contain burials from the town. But the parish of > Fetteresso additionally contains the burial ground surrounding the > ruined church of Cowie, and I imagine some residents of Stonehaven will > have been buried there as well. > > I would also tend to suppose that residents of Stonehave may not always > have been buried in the "correct" kirkyard, ie in the parish where they > died - families often had burial rights in one specific burial ground, > and even if one family member had "emigrated" to the other side of the > town, he or she may have been "repatiated" to the burial ground of the > parish where the family had a lair. > > The MIs for Dunnottar are published by ANESFHS with the catalogue number > AA127. Cowie MIs are published as AA117. There are unpublished draft > MIs for Fetteresso, and ANESFHS members can request lookups. > > > Gavin Bell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Gavin for the link. Did, this AM ( my time ) , send a request to Aberdeencity Archives. William in Montreal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Bell" <g.bell@which.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Harper > Gramps wrote: > >> >> The 1901 Census and after the death of Janet on the 24 Jan.1898 shows >> that John Harper lived at 44 Holburn Road in Aberdeen and had >> remarried. I was able to confirm that the following children; >> Catherine age 8 and Jane Ann age 6 were Jane Innesses children. There >> are two more children shown: John Harper age 5 and Maggie J Harper >> age 3 but was unable to find extracts for them. The place of >> residence for the two children of Jane was at 10 Fish Street in >> Aberdeen. >> >> As I mentioned Jane died on the 24 Jan.1898 and was buried in the >> Nellfield Cemetery in Aberdeen. >> >> Would love to know if John and Maggie J Harper were Jane's children >> and also if she had a cemetery plot in the Nellfield cemetery and who >> might have been buried in that same plot. > > > The Lair Records for Nellfield are held by Aberdeen City Archives: > > http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/LocalHistory/archives/loc_ArchivesHomePage.asp > > > Gavin Bell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Ray. Yes, "senior moments" do occur at time. I as wable to locate the extracts for John Harper and Jessie Ann Harper ( under a different name ) I wouldn't worry to much about the name Jane or Janet. You see, for the record, my Jane was given this name which was recorded on her birth record. Take care William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Harper > On 24 March 2010 15:07, William Innes wrote: > > Hi everyone. Only yesterday I was able to locate the family of Janet Innes >> who married John Harper on the 8 Jan.1892 in Aberdeen. >> >> Jane was the 1st. born of William Innes and Margaret Shaw and they lived >> at Craighead Farm in Glenlivet, Banff. >> >> The 1901 Census and after the death of Janet on the 24 Jan.1898 shows >> that >> John Harper lived at 44 Holburn Road in Aberdeen and had remarried. I >> was >> able to confirm that the following children; Catherine age 8 and Jane Ann >> age 6 were Jane Innesses children. There are two more children shown: >> John >> Harper age 5 and Maggie J Harper age 3 but was unable to find extracts >> for >> them. The place of residence for the two children of Jane was at 10 Fish >> Street in Aberdeen. >> >> As I mentioned Jane died on the 24 Jan.1898 and was buried in the >> Nellfield >> Cemetery in Aberdeen. >> >> Would love to know if John and Maggie J Harper were Jane's children and >> also if she had a cemetery plot in the Nellfield cemetery and who might >> have >> been buried in that same plot. >> > ______________________________________________ > > Hi William > > If you look at Scotland's People you will find there are three John > HARPERs > born in Aberdeen City in1895/6 and one Maggie Jessie HARPER born in 1898 > in > St Machar. One of the Johns was born in St Machar in 1895. > > I have only got the Hit List for Harpers so haven't looked at the Images > > If you get a copy of the Maggie Jessie HARPER birth certificate I imagine > you will find that she was daughter of John and Jaet HARPER. The clue is > in > the middle name - Jessie is a common synonym for Janet. I would also > guess > that Janet died in childbirth or soon after and that may be shown on the > birth certificate. The alternative that Maggie may have been born at the > end of 1898 is unlikely because she would have been "2" at the time of the > 1901 Census. As her age was given as "3" it is most likely she was born > in > the first quarter. I'd guess mid to late January. > > If she is the one you want then have a look at the BC of John HARPER born > in > St Machar in 1895. I'd lay odds he is the one you want. If not have a > look > at the other Johns born around that time. > > [PS I believe your 4th paragraph should say "Janet" not "Jane".] > > -- > Best wishes > > Ray > > ********************************************************** >>From Ray Hennessy > Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net > Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net > Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP > ********************************************************** > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi again William, PPS Obviously in the second line of my third paragraph I meant "Janet" not "Jaet". Yet another senior moment!! Cheers Ray On 24 March 2010 17:54, Ray Hennessy <ray@whatsinaname.net> wrote: > On 24 March 2010 15:07, William Innes wrote: > > Hi everyone. Only yesterday I was able to locate the family of Janet Innes >> who married John Harper on the 8 Jan.1892 in Aberdeen. >> >> Jane was the 1st. born of William Innes and Margaret Shaw and they lived >> at Craighead Farm in Glenlivet, Banff. >> >> The 1901 Census and after the death of Janet on the 24 Jan.1898 shows that >> John Harper lived at 44 Holburn Road in Aberdeen and had remarried. I was >> able to confirm that the following children; Catherine age 8 and Jane Ann >> age 6 were Jane Innesses children. There are two more children shown: John >> Harper age 5 and Maggie J Harper age 3 but was unable to find extracts for >> them. The place of residence for the two children of Jane was at 10 Fish >> Street in Aberdeen. >> >> As I mentioned Jane died on the 24 Jan.1898 and was buried in the >> Nellfield Cemetery in Aberdeen. >> >> Would love to know if John and Maggie J Harper were Jane's children and >> also if she had a cemetery plot in the Nellfield cemetery and who might have >> been buried in that same plot. >> > ______________________________________________ > > Hi William > > If you look at Scotland's People you will find there are three John HARPERs > born in Aberdeen City in1895/6 and one Maggie Jessie HARPER born in 1898 in > St Machar. One of the Johns was born in St Machar in 1895. > > I have only got the Hit List for Harpers so haven't looked at the Images > > If you get a copy of the Maggie Jessie HARPER birth certificate I imagine > you will find that she was daughter of John and Jaet HARPER. The clue is in > the middle name - Jessie is a common synonym for Janet. I would also guess > that Janet died in childbirth or soon after and that may be shown on the > birth certificate. The alternative that Maggie may have been born at the > end of 1898 is unlikely because she would have been "2" at the time of the > 1901 Census. As her age was given as "3" it is most likely she was born in > the first quarter. I'd guess mid to late January. > > If she is the one you want then have a look at the BC of John HARPER born > in St Machar in 1895. I'd lay odds he is the one you want. If not have a > look at the other Johns born around that time. > > [PS I believe your 4th paragraph should say "Janet" not "Jane".] > > -- > Best wishes > > Ray > > ********************************************************** > From Ray Hennessy > Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net > Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net > Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP > ********************************************************** >

Thank you for the tip on witnesses. I have retrieved about 6 images from SP that relate to this search effort. The 2 missing sons of Ann Callum and William Lumsden ( William and Alex ) are completeted as far as the witness search goes using your technique. The good news is I found them in LDS records despite some legibility issues. The down side is that there were no hidden gems. There are more to search in Gamrie birth records that may be critical. I have been spending a lot of time also on the missing death records for William and Ann. Thanks Jim -------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad and Jen" <bradandjen@iinet.net.au> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:03 AM To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lumsden in Stonehaven Scotland > Hi Jim, > > I'm willing to help you out here but without any information to go on, I > can't. If you could give us the witnesses names at the baptisms of > William > LUMSDEN in 1809 and Alexander LUMSDEN in 1824 when you get back from your > holiday, that would be great. > > Just because the witnesses were not LUMSDEN's or CALLUM's doesn't > necessarily mean they are useless. Witnesses at baptisms were often male > relatives so if either William or Ann had married sisters, then it is > possible their husbands were the witnesses. I always check every witness > on Familysearch IGI http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp to see who > they married. In your case, if they married a LUMSDEN or CALLUM girl, > then > bingo you have something to work on. > > Have a safe trip, > Jen. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Lumsden" <jim.lumsden@sympatico.ca> > To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:40 AM > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Lumsden in Stonehaven Scotland > > >>I paid for Williams birth record from SP and so far have no use for the >> witness names. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for the correction Gordon. I checked my ancestry census printouts and you are correct. I have been going over a lot of my records and realized I had found the 1841 census image by spelling LumsdOn on the search on SP web site. No such luck with finding the critical 1861 census entry. I am still at a stop on finding William and Ann's death record in Dunnottar or Fetteresso after 1851. Your tip helps with the details that are so important now. Jim -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gordon Johnson" <gordon@kinhelp.co.uk> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:30 PM To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ABERDEEN] 1841 census > Jim - the statement below is wrong! In the 8141 census, the enumerators > were instructed to round DOWN all adult ages to the nearest 5-year point. > This means that if someone is shown as age 60, their age was actually > between 60 and 64; someone shown as 55 was actually between 55 and 59. > Gordon. > > On 11/02/2010 23:51, Jim wrote: >> Reviewing my records in c1841 dunnottar Ann is 60 and William is 55 >> (rounded >> up by 5s. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: <aberdeen-request@rootsweb.com> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:00 PM Subject: ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 93 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 92 (Gordon Johnson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:11:42 +0000 > From: Gordon Johnson <gordon@kinhelp.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 92 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4BA77A9E.8030202@kinhelp.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > For arrivals of ships in Aberdeen, you need the Aberdeen newspapers of > the period. > Gordon. > > On 22/03/2010 07:00, aberdeen-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 90 (Sara Thomas) >> 2. Re: PAF (Venita Roylance) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:10:20 +0000 (GMT) >> From: Sara Thomas<illtud.sant@yahoo.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 90 >> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID:<161607.49832.qm@web26306.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Thank you again. What I'm looking for is a newspaper available in the >> Tain area which announces the safe arrival of?vessels in Aberdeen. I know >> from Pigot's Directory that the 'Eliza' is?a vessel carrying goods and >> passsengers from Ross-shire to Aberdeen in the 1820s, and this could have >> become a fishing vessel in 1930, but?it's the announcement of safe >> arrivals I'm after,?whatever the ship. But it all adds to the picture!? >> Sara >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Gordon Johnson<gordon@kinhelp.co.uk> >> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, 20 March, 2010 17:04:45 >> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 90 >> >> ** On Am Baile I find the following, which might not be the same "Eliza": >> Shipping> Sailing Ships >> >> Inverness - For sale, the 'Eliza of Inverness', 24 tons, adapted for a >> fishing vessel >> >> Inverness Journal Friday, 19 February 1830 >> >> Page/Col Ref:1B >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:18:14 -0600 >> From: Venita Roylance<venitar@mac.com> >> Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] PAF >> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID:<57DDEB9E-6B7F-4C3D-AB9C-8EC2F433238B@mac.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Actually, PAF is no longer being updated. The last version was 5.2.12 >> which came out in about 2002 (I think). Still, it is a very good >> genealogy data management program, and is free for the download on >> familysearch.org. If you are not using the latest version, you may wish >> to upgrade. >> >> Yours, >> >> Venita >> >> On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Lynne Uhler wrote: >> >>> PAF is regularly updated and downloadable to any computer. No cost. >>> Use the link on the www.familysearch.org site and you can select the >>> download by what type of computer you have--which specific windows >>> version of your p.c. you've got, or Apple if that's what you have. I >>> believe there's now a PAF 5.5 version, so whoever is struggling with PAF >>> 3, take heart! >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the ABERDEEN list administrator, send an email to >> ABERDEEN-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the ABERDEEN mailing list, send an email to >> ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 92 >> *************************************** >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ABERDEEN list administrator, send an email to > ABERDEEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ABERDEEN mailing list, send an email to > ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 93 > ***************************************

On 24 March 2010 15:07, William Innes wrote: Hi everyone. Only yesterday I was able to locate the family of Janet Innes > who married John Harper on the 8 Jan.1892 in Aberdeen. > > Jane was the 1st. born of William Innes and Margaret Shaw and they lived > at Craighead Farm in Glenlivet, Banff. > > The 1901 Census and after the death of Janet on the 24 Jan.1898 shows that > John Harper lived at 44 Holburn Road in Aberdeen and had remarried. I was > able to confirm that the following children; Catherine age 8 and Jane Ann > age 6 were Jane Innesses children. There are two more children shown: John > Harper age 5 and Maggie J Harper age 3 but was unable to find extracts for > them. The place of residence for the two children of Jane was at 10 Fish > Street in Aberdeen. > > As I mentioned Jane died on the 24 Jan.1898 and was buried in the Nellfield > Cemetery in Aberdeen. > > Would love to know if John and Maggie J Harper were Jane's children and > also if she had a cemetery plot in the Nellfield cemetery and who might have > been buried in that same plot. > ______________________________________________ Hi William If you look at Scotland's People you will find there are three John HARPERs born in Aberdeen City in1895/6 and one Maggie Jessie HARPER born in 1898 in St Machar. One of the Johns was born in St Machar in 1895. I have only got the Hit List for Harpers so haven't looked at the Images If you get a copy of the Maggie Jessie HARPER birth certificate I imagine you will find that she was daughter of John and Jaet HARPER. The clue is in the middle name - Jessie is a common synonym for Janet. I would also guess that Janet died in childbirth or soon after and that may be shown on the birth certificate. The alternative that Maggie may have been born at the end of 1898 is unlikely because she would have been "2" at the time of the 1901 Census. As her age was given as "3" it is most likely she was born in the first quarter. I'd guess mid to late January. If she is the one you want then have a look at the BC of John HARPER born in St Machar in 1895. I'd lay odds he is the one you want. If not have a look at the other Johns born around that time. [PS I believe your 4th paragraph should say "Janet" not "Jane".] -- Best wishes Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP **********************************************************

Gramps wrote: > > The 1901 Census and after the death of Janet on the 24 Jan.1898 shows > that John Harper lived at 44 Holburn Road in Aberdeen and had > remarried. I was able to confirm that the following children; > Catherine age 8 and Jane Ann age 6 were Jane Innesses children. There > are two more children shown: John Harper age 5 and Maggie J Harper > age 3 but was unable to find extracts for them. The place of > residence for the two children of Jane was at 10 Fish Street in > Aberdeen. > > As I mentioned Jane died on the 24 Jan.1898 and was buried in the > Nellfield Cemetery in Aberdeen. > > Would love to know if John and Maggie J Harper were Jane's children > and also if she had a cemetery plot in the Nellfield cemetery and who > might have been buried in that same plot. The Lair Records for Nellfield are held by Aberdeen City Archives: http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/LocalHistory/archives/loc_ArchivesHomePage.asp Gavin Bell

Hi everyone. Only yesterday I was able to locate the family of Janet Innes who married John Harper on the 8 Jan.1892 in Aberdeen. Jane was the 1st. born of William Innes and Margaret Shaw and they lived at Craighead Farm in Glenlivet, Banff. The 1901 Census and after the death of Janet on the 24 Jan.1898 shows that John Harper lived at 44 Holburn Road in Aberdeen and had remarried. I was able to confirm that the following children; Catherine age 8 and Jane Ann age 6 were Jane Innesses children. There are two more children shown: John Harper age 5 and Maggie J Harper age 3 but was unable to find extracts for them. The place of residence for the two children of Jane was at 10 Fish Street in Aberdeen. As I mentioned Jane died on the 24 Jan.1898 and was buried in the Nellfield Cemetery in Aberdeen. Would love to know if John and Maggie J Harper were Jane's children and also if she had a cemetery plot in the Nellfield cemetery and who might have been buried in that same plot. William

I am seeking any information about a John PATERSON, born Bannockburn abt 1854 He married Wilhelmina STEVENSON , daughter of Duff ALLARDYCE & John STEVENSON, a Sgt in the Royal Artillery and granddaughter of the Rev. William ALLARDYCE Minster of Rhynie & Essie at the Lemon Tree Hotel, Huntly in 1881. John is shown as a carpet manufacturer in his wedding registration. Their first child, John William Allardyce PATERSON was born 1881 at Shaw Villa, Bridge of Allan. He married Catherine CALDER in Elgin in 1912 and later became the manager of the Huntly and later Keith cinemas and was known as "Palace Jack". He died at his home in Land Street, Keith in 1970. John, the father, moved with his family to St Machar, Aberdeen where he was recorded in the 1901 census at Hardgate, Ferryhill as a music teacher. He died at Causewayend, Aberdeen in 1910 and his occupation is given as professional musician Another son Fleetwood PATERSON was born 1884 at St Ninian's, Stirling. He married Anna Gray GORMAN at the Bellslea Hotel, Fraserburgh in 1912 and worked as photographer both in Fraserburgh and Aberdeen until his death in 1946 at St Peters Street, Aberdeen. I would be very grateful to hear from anyone has any knowledge of or is related to this family Martin

For arrivals of ships in Aberdeen, you need the Aberdeen newspapers of the period. Gordon. On 22/03/2010 07:00, aberdeen-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 90 (Sara Thomas) > 2. Re: PAF (Venita Roylance) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:10:20 +0000 (GMT) > From: Sara Thomas<illtud.sant@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 90 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID:<161607.49832.qm@web26306.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Thank you again. What I'm looking for is a newspaper available in the Tain area which announces the safe arrival of?vessels in Aberdeen. I know from Pigot's Directory that the 'Eliza' is?a vessel carrying goods and passsengers from Ross-shire to Aberdeen in the 1820s, and this could have become a fishing vessel in 1930, but?it's the announcement of safe arrivals I'm after,?whatever the ship. But it all adds to the picture!? > Sara > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gordon Johnson<gordon@kinhelp.co.uk> > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 20 March, 2010 17:04:45 > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 90 > > ** On Am Baile I find the following, which might not be the same "Eliza": > Shipping> Sailing Ships > > Inverness - For sale, the 'Eliza of Inverness', 24 tons, adapted for a > fishing vessel > > Inverness Journal Friday, 19 February 1830 > > Page/Col Ref:1B > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:18:14 -0600 > From: Venita Roylance<venitar@mac.com> > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] PAF > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID:<57DDEB9E-6B7F-4C3D-AB9C-8EC2F433238B@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Actually, PAF is no longer being updated. The last version was 5.2.12 which came out in about 2002 (I think). Still, it is a very good genealogy data management program, and is free for the download on familysearch.org. If you are not using the latest version, you may wish to upgrade. > > Yours, > > Venita > > On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Lynne Uhler wrote: > >> PAF is regularly updated and downloadable to any computer. No cost. >> Use the link on the www.familysearch.org site and you can select the >> download by what type of computer you have--which specific windows >> version of your p.c. you've got, or Apple if that's what you have. I >> believe there's now a PAF 5.5 version, so whoever is struggling with PAF >> 3, take heart! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ABERDEEN list administrator, send an email to > ABERDEEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ABERDEEN mailing list, send an email to ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 92 > *************************************** >

Actually, PAF is no longer being updated. The last version was 5.2.12 which came out in about 2002 (I think). Still, it is a very good genealogy data management program, and is free for the download on familysearch.org. If you are not using the latest version, you may wish to upgrade. Yours, Venita On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Lynne Uhler wrote: > PAF is regularly updated and downloadable to any computer. No cost. > Use the link on the www.familysearch.org site and you can select the > download by what type of computer you have--which specific windows > version of your p.c. you've got, or Apple if that's what you have. I > believe there's now a PAF 5.5 version, so whoever is struggling with PAF > 3, take heart! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you again. What I'm looking for is a newspaper available in the Tain area which announces the safe arrival of vessels in Aberdeen. I know from Pigot's Directory that the 'Eliza' is a vessel carrying goods and passsengers from Ross-shire to Aberdeen in the 1820s, and this could have become a fishing vessel in 1930, but it's the announcement of safe arrivals I'm after, whatever the ship. But it all adds to the picture!  Sara ________________________________ From: Gordon Johnson <gordon@kinhelp.co.uk> To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 20 March, 2010 17:04:45 Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] ABERDEEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 90 ** On Am Baile I find the following, which might not be the same "Eliza": Shipping > Sailing Ships Inverness - For sale, the 'Eliza of Inverness', 24 tons, adapted for a fishing vessel Inverness Journal Friday, 19 February 1830 Page/Col Ref:1B ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

** On Am Baile I find the following, which might not be the same "Eliza": Shipping > Sailing Ships Inverness - For sale, the 'Eliza of Inverness', 24 tons, adapted for a fishing vessel Inverness Journal Friday, 19 February 1830 Page/Col Ref:1B

Hi Gordon, Many thanks for that suggestion --- I did find the Eliza amongst the Shipping Lists on 'Am Baile' , but no references in the local papers. The Lists show the high rate of loss of ships, so I can see why announcing the arrival of one would be important. Sara

** For a Tain item, there were few newspapers at the time, but the Inverness Journal started in 1807. Try the "Am Baile" website's newspaper index at: > http://www.ambaile.org.uk/en/newspapers/index.jsp Gordon Johnson, Wick. On 18/03/2010 07:00, aberdeen-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sea Travel between Invergordon and Aberdeen (Sara Thomas) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:50:37 +0000 (GMT) > From: Sara Thomas<illtud.sant@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [ABERDEEN] Sea Travel between Invergordon and Aberdeen > To: Aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID:<529156.7886.qm@web26303.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I have a letter dated 1834 from my great-great-grandfather in Ardcronie, Kincardine, Ross-shire?to one of his sons who has recently gone to King's College for the first time. The family has learnt he has arrived safely ---?"from the Newspaper". Father and son both travelled to?Invergordon, presumably on the mail coach, but they parted there. The fact that there is a newspaper announcement makes me think the son continued to?Aberdeen by boat rather than the mail coach. I see in Pigot's Directory for 1825 (at least)?that a ship called the Eliza travelled from Aberdeen to Inverness, Cromarty and Burghead "occasionally" (p.181), and that a ship?went from Invergordon to Cromarty?"occasionally" (p.640). Is this likely to be the same boat??The Eliza?appears to take both goods and passengers. Any details such as length of journey and conditions of travel gratefully received. Also, would the newspaper in which boat arrivals?were announced be the > Aberdeen Chronicle, or the Aberdeen Journal, or?somewhere else? It would have to be a paper which circulated in north-east Ross-shire, specifically Tain. > Sara??

I have a letter dated 1834 from my great-great-grandfather in Ardcronie, Kincardine, Ross-shire to one of his sons who has recently gone to King's College for the first time. The family has learnt he has arrived safely --- "from the Newspaper". Father and son both travelled to Invergordon, presumably on the mail coach, but they parted there. The fact that there is a newspaper announcement makes me think the son continued to Aberdeen by boat rather than the mail coach. I see in Pigot's Directory for 1825 (at least) that a ship called the Eliza travelled from Aberdeen to Inverness, Cromarty and Burghead "occasionally" (p.181), and that a ship went from Invergordon to Cromarty "occasionally" (p.640). Is this likely to be the same boat? The Eliza appears to take both goods and passengers. Any details such as length of journey and conditions of travel gratefully received. Also, would the newspaper in which boat arrivals were announced be the Aberdeen Chronicle, or the Aberdeen Journal, or somewhere else? It would have to be a paper which circulated in north-east Ross-shire, specifically Tain. Sara