Hi Goldie A good interrupt! The name Delgardo is Spanish [or Portuguese] with a meaning like "thin, skinny" and sometimes used as a nickname or insult! My guess is that they came over on the Armada and were shipwrecked on the northern coasts as many were. Being "good" Catholics they would have met many of like mind in the north and bred happily with the locals. This could explain the frequency of the name and its variants. Best wishes Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net On 16 October 2013 03:22, Goldie & Lido Doratti <lidogold2@shaw.ca> wrote: > I have no interest in this last name, but I do recall viewing a film from > the Latter Day Saints in Salt Lake on one of the OPR films and seeing the > last name of Dalgarno/Delgarno and thinking to myself, "how did an Italian > end up in the North of Scotland?", and having a bit of a chuckle to > myself. > It seemed to me that it should be an Italian name I can't add any more to > this thread, unless a Dalgarno was a witness to one of my Innes or McGregor > folks and for the life of me I can't come up with where I saw it either. > Going thru my paperwork here. I was just on the LDS site and there are in > excess of some 2.000 Dalgarno's on it. Sorry to interrupt, just trying to > help out here. Goldie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hennessy > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:57 PM > To: Aberdeen List > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Aberdeen - Dalgarno > > Hi Margaret > > Our William DALGARNO/DALGARDEN was married in 1796 so I guess he was born > between about 1760 and 1778. The only candidate on Family search was > christened in Slains on 16 April 1769, Father John, mother not named. He > "may" be our one but I have no way of telling. I have gone through the > process of trying to find this William on Census records and the only one > around is aged 70 in 1841 living with a Bell BADENOCH who may be his > mother-in-law as she is aged 85. This William appears to be one of seven > children born in 1761-72 to John DALGARDNO, none of whom had a mother > named. > > There is an earlier family in Slains [1734-1745] with a mother named once > as Barbara WALLACE. She married a John DALGARNO in 1733 which is far too > early for the John who had children two decades later. > > So our William DALGARNO isn't easy to trace and I have to confess that we > gave up looking for him some 6-7 years ago. I just keep a watching brief > for this and other equally untraceable names. > > Thanks for your interest, folks. Sorry we don't seem to be able to resolve > these issues. > > Ray Hennessy > www.whatsinaname.net > > > On 15 October 2013 18:22, Margaret Martin <felkington@btinternet.com> > wrote: > > > I have not contacted this list before but I see the discussion at the > > moment is the name "Dalgarno". My GG Grandmother was Isabella Dalgarno > who > > was born in St Fergus, Banffshire in 1814. I believe her parents were > > William Dalgarno (B: 1792 Slains - D: 1828 Kirkton, St Fergus) and Ann > > Mair > > (1775 Gardenstown, Gamrie, Banffshire - D: 1856 Kirktown, St Fergus) - > but > > the family rumour, from a rather "staid" great aunt, was that Isabella > was > > descended from a Captain Dalgarno and a Miss Sangster! Isabella was > > married > > in Lonmay in 1833 to Charles Kerr (B: 1806 Lonmay, son of James Kerr and > > Margaret Warrender) . Charles was a cattleman at Essie, St Fergus and > > emmigrated to Australia with his wife and 3 of their children on the > > "Gresham" in 1869. I am wondering if anyone have Isabella or Charles in > > their tree. > > > > Regards Margaret Martin > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

-----Original Message----- From: Margaret Martin Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:06 AM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: [ABERDEEN] Re Dalgarno Hi Ray, Sorry, I guess I should have replied to you, Goldie and Gordon all together. Anyway on the subject of your John Dalgarno, if it's any help, I have a John born 27.9.1753 in Slains to George Dalgarno and Isobel Clarke - just to add to the confusion! Do you know if "Dalgarno" has any Italian connection as Goldie suggests? Thanks Margaret ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since I'm married to an Italian, it was my first thought.....shipwrecked Italian family.......then I laughed at myself. But Ray's explanation of the name being Spanish or Portuguese makes sense. The name at the time struck me as an odd name to find in the HIghlands, which is why my brain remembered it, I guess. Goldie -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Martin Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:06 AM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: [ABERDEEN] Re Dalgarno Hi Ray, Sorry, I guess I should have replied to you, Goldie and Gordon all together. Anyway on the subject of your John Dalgarno, if it's any help, I have a John born 27.9.1753 in Slains to George Dalgarno and Isobel Clarke - just to add to the confusion! Do you know if "Dalgarno" has any Italian connection as Goldie suggests? Thanks Margaret ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The part of the message about Cptn. Dalgarno and Miss Sangster seems to imply something else......but my take on it is that MISS Sangster came from a wealthy or higher class of folks so was referred to as MISS ----or Mistress. You can get a death registration or the cert from Scotland's People on the fellow who died in 1856 which should give his parents. But keep one eye open........sometimes the person giving the information really didn't know but thought they knew the parents of the dead person; other times the person (Informant) was so upset they may have given some wrong info, and thirdly you might hit pay dirt!! No one would intentionally (speaking generally) would give wrong info, but it happened. This is just 'fair warning to keep an eye out'. Good luck, Goldie -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Martin Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:26 AM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: [ABERDEEN] Dalgarno Hi Goldie, Like you, I thought Dalgarno sounded like an Italian name and that it should be easy to follow! No so - there are thousands of them!! Thanks Margaret ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret Our William DALGARNO/DALGARDEN was married in 1796 so I guess he was born between about 1760 and 1778. The only candidate on Family search was christened in Slains on 16 April 1769, Father John, mother not named. He "may" be our one but I have no way of telling. I have gone through the process of trying to find this William on Census records and the only one around is aged 70 in 1841 living with a Bell BADENOCH who may be his mother-in-law as she is aged 85. This William appears to be one of seven children born in 1761-72 to John DALGARDNO, none of whom had a mother named. There is an earlier family in Slains [1734-1745] with a mother named once as Barbara WALLACE. She married a John DALGARNO in 1733 which is far too early for the John who had children two decades later. So our William DALGARNO isn't easy to trace and I have to confess that we gave up looking for him some 6-7 years ago. I just keep a watching brief for this and other equally untraceable names. Thanks for your interest, folks. Sorry we don't seem to be able to resolve these issues. Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net On 15 October 2013 18:22, Margaret Martin <felkington@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have not contacted this list before but I see the discussion at the > moment is the name "Dalgarno". My GG Grandmother was Isabella Dalgarno who > was born in St Fergus, Banffshire in 1814. I believe her parents were > William Dalgarno (B: 1792 Slains - D: 1828 Kirkton, St Fergus) and Ann Mair > (1775 Gardenstown, Gamrie, Banffshire - D: 1856 Kirktown, St Fergus) - but > the family rumour, from a rather "staid" great aunt, was that Isabella was > descended from a Captain Dalgarno and a Miss Sangster! Isabella was married > in Lonmay in 1833 to Charles Kerr (B: 1806 Lonmay, son of James Kerr and > Margaret Warrender) . Charles was a cattleman at Essie, St Fergus and > emmigrated to Australia with his wife and 3 of their children on the > "Gresham" in 1869. I am wondering if anyone have Isabella or Charles in > their tree. > > Regards Margaret Martin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Ray, I know what you mean. Cheers Roslyn. -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hennessy Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:20 PM To: Aberdeen List Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO Hi Roslyn We only have the two names so far: Margaret DALGARNO and her father William DALGARDEN on his marriage entry in the OPR. The number of spelling variations and the lack of any real location details have prevented us following these back and, as William didn't register Margaret's birth [or it has got lost], it is unlikely we'll find any of her siblings to follow down the ages. If we were wiling to trawl through the death certificates post 1855 we might find more but that would be a bit expensive and of little help to us. Best wishes Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net On 15 October 2013 07:19, Greg Garden <gardeng@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi Ray, > > My husbands surname is Garden. Dalgarno is a derivative of that name also. > I > would be interested to see if you have any with that surname also. > > Thanks Roslyn Garden. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hennessy > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 8:54 AM > To: Aberdeen List > Subject: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO > > On 13 October 2013 09:17, Laura Dalgarno-Platt > <peeriegems@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > > > There are a lot of female Christians in the Shetland part of my family > > tree and most of those used Christian and Christina interchangeably. > > Laura Dalgarno-Platt > > > > Hi Laura > > I have noted your comment about Christina being interchangeable with > female > Christian but I am writing as I am intrigued by your surname. > > My wife's family line includes some DALGARNOs but we are having some > difficulty determining which ones they are. Margret DALGARNO married > Norman MELDRUM in Aberdeen St Nicholas on 4 August 1828. We know a lot > about his ancestors and about a hundred descendants. > > However all we know about Margaret is that she was born in Aberdeen around > 1805 and her parents were William DALGARDEN and Margaret RUNCIMAN, married > in Old Machar on 13 November 1796. > > I have not been able to trace William DALGARDEN/DALGARNO's parents and > wonder if you have any further information. > > Regards > > Ray Hennessy > www.whatsinaname.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have no interest in this last name, but I do recall viewing a film from the Latter Day Saints in Salt Lake on one of the OPR films and seeing the last name of Dalgarno/Delgarno and thinking to myself, "how did an Italian end up in the North of Scotland?", and having a bit of a chuckle to myself. It seemed to me that it should be an Italian name I can't add any more to this thread, unless a Dalgarno was a witness to one of my Innes or McGregor folks and for the life of me I can't come up with where I saw it either. Going thru my paperwork here. I was just on the LDS site and there are in excess of some 2.000 Dalgarno's on it. Sorry to interrupt, just trying to help out here. Goldie -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hennessy Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:57 PM To: Aberdeen List Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Aberdeen - Dalgarno Hi Margaret Our William DALGARNO/DALGARDEN was married in 1796 so I guess he was born between about 1760 and 1778. The only candidate on Family search was christened in Slains on 16 April 1769, Father John, mother not named. He "may" be our one but I have no way of telling. I have gone through the process of trying to find this William on Census records and the only one around is aged 70 in 1841 living with a Bell BADENOCH who may be his mother-in-law as she is aged 85. This William appears to be one of seven children born in 1761-72 to John DALGARDNO, none of whom had a mother named. There is an earlier family in Slains [1734-1745] with a mother named once as Barbara WALLACE. She married a John DALGARNO in 1733 which is far too early for the John who had children two decades later. So our William DALGARNO isn't easy to trace and I have to confess that we gave up looking for him some 6-7 years ago. I just keep a watching brief for this and other equally untraceable names. Thanks for your interest, folks. Sorry we don't seem to be able to resolve these issues. Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net On 15 October 2013 18:22, Margaret Martin <felkington@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have not contacted this list before but I see the discussion at the > moment is the name "Dalgarno". My GG Grandmother was Isabella Dalgarno who > was born in St Fergus, Banffshire in 1814. I believe her parents were > William Dalgarno (B: 1792 Slains - D: 1828 Kirkton, St Fergus) and Ann > Mair > (1775 Gardenstown, Gamrie, Banffshire - D: 1856 Kirktown, St Fergus) - but > the family rumour, from a rather "staid" great aunt, was that Isabella was > descended from a Captain Dalgarno and a Miss Sangster! Isabella was > married > in Lonmay in 1833 to Charles Kerr (B: 1806 Lonmay, son of James Kerr and > Margaret Warrender) . Charles was a cattleman at Essie, St Fergus and > emmigrated to Australia with his wife and 3 of their children on the > "Gresham" in 1869. I am wondering if anyone have Isabella or Charles in > their tree. > > Regards Margaret Martin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have not contacted this list before but I see the discussion at the moment is the name "Dalgarno". My GG Grandmother was Isabella Dalgarno who was born in St Fergus, Banffshire in 1814. I believe her parents were William Dalgarno (B: 1792 Slains - D: 1828 Kirkton, St Fergus) and Ann Mair (1775 Gardenstown, Gamrie, Banffshire - D: 1856 Kirktown, St Fergus) - but the family rumour, from a rather "staid" great aunt, was that Isabella was descended from a Captain Dalgarno and a Miss Sangster! Isabella was married in Lonmay in 1833 to Charles Kerr (B: 1806 Lonmay, son of James Kerr and Margaret Warrender) . Charles was a cattleman at Essie, St Fergus and emmigrated to Australia with his wife and 3 of their children on the "Gresham" in 1869. I am wondering if anyone have Isabella or Charles in their tree. Regards Margaret Martin

Hi Ray, My husbands surname is Garden. Dalgarno is a derivative of that name also. I would be interested to see if you have any with that surname also. Thanks Roslyn Garden. -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hennessy Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 8:54 AM To: Aberdeen List Subject: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO On 13 October 2013 09:17, Laura Dalgarno-Platt <peeriegems@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > There are a lot of female Christians in the Shetland part of my family > tree and most of those used Christian and Christina interchangeably. > Laura Dalgarno-Platt > > Hi Laura I have noted your comment about Christina being interchangeable with female Christian but I am writing as I am intrigued by your surname. My wife's family line includes some DALGARNOs but we are having some difficulty determining which ones they are. Margret DALGARNO married Norman MELDRUM in Aberdeen St Nicholas on 4 August 1828. We know a lot about his ancestors and about a hundred descendants. However all we know about Margaret is that she was born in Aberdeen around 1805 and her parents were William DALGARDEN and Margaret RUNCIMAN, married in Old Machar on 13 November 1796. I have not been able to trace William DALGARDEN/DALGARNO's parents and wonder if you have any further information. Regards Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George I wasn't aware of that listing on the ANESFHS site - another one of Gavin's excellent services! Unfortunately it doesn't cover the period I would be interested in, i.e the first few decades of the 19thC. I have spent an hour or two wandering round the St Nicholas kirkyard but to no avail. We know that the DALGARNO family lived in central Aberdeen in the 1820s because we have a memoir written by Norman MELDRUM's son, Andrew in NZ, in which he tells of his parents' courtship. Margaret DALGARNO turned Norman down at first and a neighbour heard him rushing out of the apartment block in tears. However he persisted and a dynasty was formed. Of course what we most like to find is someone with an old family bible but they are so rare it's a forlorn hope. Still we keep looking Regards to all Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net On 15 October 2013 12:43, George Brander <george.brander@gmail.com> wrote: > Roslyn and Ray > When I was growing up in Aberdeen my mother had a friend whose name was > Dalgarno She used to delight in telling me that one of her ancestors was > buried In the West Kirk where we were members and that another was buried > in the Drum's Aisle. This is the old medieval section between the West > Kirk and what was then called East St Nicholas. > I had forgotten all about that (it was about 65 years ago at least!" but > when I saw your post I looked up St Nicholas Burials on the ANESFHS > databank and there sure enough there are Dalgarnos and Dalgardnos recorded > including one in the Drum's Isle (sic) > best regards > George > > George Brander > Torre de la Horadada > España > > > On 15 October 2013 12:37, Greg Garden <gardeng@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > Thanks Ray, > > > > I know what you mean. > > > > Cheers Roslyn. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray Hennessy > > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:20 PM > > To: Aberdeen List > > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO > > > > Hi Roslyn > > > > We only have the two names so far: Margaret DALGARNO and her father > William > > DALGARDEN on his marriage entry in the OPR. The number of spelling > > variations and the lack of any real location details have prevented us > > following these back and, as William didn't register Margaret's birth [or > > it has got lost], it is unlikely we'll find any of her siblings to follow > > down the ages. If we were wiling to trawl through the death certificates > > post 1855 we might find more but that would be a bit expensive and of > > little help to us. > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Ray Hennessy > > www.whatsinaname.net > > > > > > On 15 October 2013 07:19, Greg Garden <gardeng@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > Hi Ray, > > > > > > My husbands surname is Garden. Dalgarno is a derivative of that name > > also. > > > I > > > would be interested to see if you have any with that surname also. > > > > > > Thanks Roslyn Garden. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ray Hennessy > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 8:54 AM > > > To: Aberdeen List > > > Subject: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO > > > > > > On 13 October 2013 09:17, Laura Dalgarno-Platt > > > <peeriegems@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > > > > > > > There are a lot of female Christians in the Shetland part of my > family > > > > tree and most of those used Christian and Christina interchangeably. > > > > Laura Dalgarno-Platt > > > > > > > > Hi Laura > > > > > > I have noted your comment about Christina being interchangeable with > > > female > > > Christian but I am writing as I am intrigued by your surname. > > > > > > My wife's family line includes some DALGARNOs but we are having some > > > difficulty determining which ones they are. Margret DALGARNO married > > > Norman MELDRUM in Aberdeen St Nicholas on 4 August 1828. We know a lot > > > about his ancestors and about a hundred descendants. > > > > > > However all we know about Margaret is that she was born in Aberdeen > > around > > > 1805 and her parents were William DALGARDEN and Margaret RUNCIMAN, > > married > > > in Old Machar on 13 November 1796. > > > > > > I have not been able to trace William DALGARDEN/DALGARNO's parents and > > > wonder if you have any further information. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Ray Hennessy > > > www.whatsinaname.net > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Roslyn and Ray When I was growing up in Aberdeen my mother had a friend whose name was Dalgarno She used to delight in telling me that one of her ancestors was buried In the West Kirk where we were members and that another was buried in the Drum's Aisle. This is the old medieval section between the West Kirk and what was then called East St Nicholas. I had forgotten all about that (it was about 65 years ago at least!" but when I saw your post I looked up St Nicholas Burials on the ANESFHS databank and there sure enough there are Dalgarnos and Dalgardnos recorded including one in the Drum's Isle (sic) best regards George George Brander Torre de la Horadada España On 15 October 2013 12:37, Greg Garden <gardeng@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Thanks Ray, > > I know what you mean. > > Cheers Roslyn. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hennessy > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:20 PM > To: Aberdeen List > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO > > Hi Roslyn > > We only have the two names so far: Margaret DALGARNO and her father William > DALGARDEN on his marriage entry in the OPR. The number of spelling > variations and the lack of any real location details have prevented us > following these back and, as William didn't register Margaret's birth [or > it has got lost], it is unlikely we'll find any of her siblings to follow > down the ages. If we were wiling to trawl through the death certificates > post 1855 we might find more but that would be a bit expensive and of > little help to us. > > Best wishes > > > Ray Hennessy > www.whatsinaname.net > > > On 15 October 2013 07:19, Greg Garden <gardeng@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > Hi Ray, > > > > My husbands surname is Garden. Dalgarno is a derivative of that name > also. > > I > > would be interested to see if you have any with that surname also. > > > > Thanks Roslyn Garden. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray Hennessy > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 8:54 AM > > To: Aberdeen List > > Subject: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO > > > > On 13 October 2013 09:17, Laura Dalgarno-Platt > > <peeriegems@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > > > > > There are a lot of female Christians in the Shetland part of my family > > > tree and most of those used Christian and Christina interchangeably. > > > Laura Dalgarno-Platt > > > > > > Hi Laura > > > > I have noted your comment about Christina being interchangeable with > > female > > Christian but I am writing as I am intrigued by your surname. > > > > My wife's family line includes some DALGARNOs but we are having some > > difficulty determining which ones they are. Margret DALGARNO married > > Norman MELDRUM in Aberdeen St Nicholas on 4 August 1828. We know a lot > > about his ancestors and about a hundred descendants. > > > > However all we know about Margaret is that she was born in Aberdeen > around > > 1805 and her parents were William DALGARDEN and Margaret RUNCIMAN, > married > > in Old Machar on 13 November 1796. > > > > I have not been able to trace William DALGARDEN/DALGARNO's parents and > > wonder if you have any further information. > > > > Regards > > > > Ray Hennessy > > www.whatsinaname.net > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a William Dalgarno born 24 Feb 1792. His parents Sylvestor Dalgarno and Margaret Greig. I also have a John Dalgarno (my 4th great-grandfather) b. 1726 d. 1827 married 18 Jan 1757 to Margaret Sangster. Would any of these people fit into your family. Gordon -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:23 AM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: [ABERDEEN] Aberdeen - Dalgarno I have not contacted this list before but I see the discussion at the moment is the name "Dalgarno". My GG Grandmother was Isabella Dalgarno who was born in St Fergus, Banffshire in 1814. I believe her parents were William Dalgarno (B: 1792 Slains - D: 1828 Kirkton, St Fergus) and Ann Mair (1775 Gardenstown, Gamrie, Banffshire - D: 1856 Kirktown, St Fergus) - but the family rumour, from a rather "staid" great aunt, was that Isabella was descended from a Captain Dalgarno and a Miss Sangster! Isabella was married in Lonmay in 1833 to Charles Kerr (B: 1806 Lonmay, son of James Kerr and Margaret Warrender) . Charles was a cattleman at Essie, St Fergus and emmigrated to Australia with his wife and 3 of their children on the "Gresham" in 1869. I am wondering if anyone have Isabella or Charles in their tree. Regards Margaret Martin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6742 - Release Date: 10/11/13

Hi Roslyn We only have the two names so far: Margaret DALGARNO and her father William DALGARDEN on his marriage entry in the OPR. The number of spelling variations and the lack of any real location details have prevented us following these back and, as William didn't register Margaret's birth [or it has got lost], it is unlikely we'll find any of her siblings to follow down the ages. If we were wiling to trawl through the death certificates post 1855 we might find more but that would be a bit expensive and of little help to us. Best wishes Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net On 15 October 2013 07:19, Greg Garden <gardeng@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi Ray, > > My husbands surname is Garden. Dalgarno is a derivative of that name also. > I > would be interested to see if you have any with that surname also. > > Thanks Roslyn Garden. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hennessy > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 8:54 AM > To: Aberdeen List > Subject: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO > > On 13 October 2013 09:17, Laura Dalgarno-Platt > <peeriegems@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > > > There are a lot of female Christians in the Shetland part of my family > > tree and most of those used Christian and Christina interchangeably. > > Laura Dalgarno-Platt > > > > Hi Laura > > I have noted your comment about Christina being interchangeable with female > Christian but I am writing as I am intrigued by your surname. > > My wife's family line includes some DALGARNOs but we are having some > difficulty determining which ones they are. Margret DALGARNO married > Norman MELDRUM in Aberdeen St Nicholas on 4 August 1828. We know a lot > about his ancestors and about a hundred descendants. > > However all we know about Margaret is that she was born in Aberdeen around > 1805 and her parents were William DALGARDEN and Margaret RUNCIMAN, married > in Old Machar on 13 November 1796. > > I have not been able to trace William DALGARDEN/DALGARNO's parents and > wonder if you have any further information. > > Regards > > Ray Hennessy > www.whatsinaname.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If that is so, you will be aware that GARDYNE is an accepted variation of the GARDEN name. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Garden" <gardeng@optusnet.com.au> To: <aberdeen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] DALGARNO > Hi Ray, > > My husbands surname is Garden. Dalgarno is a derivative of that name also. I > would be interested to see if you have any with that surname also. > > Thanks Roslyn Garden. >

Jumping in here… I have a Margaret Dalgarno, born 6 Apr 1849, Old Machar, daughter of George Dalgarno and Margaret Mitchell, married William Michie, 16 Aug 1872, Newhills. I haven't done any research on this line, but I wondered if she is part of your Dalgarno family. Willliam Michie is my 2C2R. Venita Family History and Other Fascinations venitap.com On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Ray Hennessy <ray@whatsinaname.net> wrote: > On 13 October 2013 09:17, Laura Dalgarno-Platt <peeriegems@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > >> There are a lot of female Christians in the Shetland part of my family >> tree and most of those used Christian and Christina interchangeably. >> Laura Dalgarno-Platt >> >> Hi Laura > > I have noted your comment about Christina being interchangeable with female > Christian but I am writing as I am intrigued by your surname. > > My wife's family line includes some DALGARNOs but we are having some > difficulty determining which ones they are. Margret DALGARNO married > Norman MELDRUM in Aberdeen St Nicholas on 4 August 1828. We know a lot > about his ancestors and about a hundred descendants. > > However all we know about Margaret is that she was born in Aberdeen around > 1805 and her parents were William DALGARDEN and Margaret RUNCIMAN, married > in Old Machar on 13 November 1796. > > I have not been able to trace William DALGARDEN/DALGARNO's parents and > wonder if you have any further information. > > Regards > > Ray Hennessy > www.whatsinaname.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 13 October 2013 09:17, Laura Dalgarno-Platt <peeriegems@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > There are a lot of female Christians in the Shetland part of my family > tree and most of those used Christian and Christina interchangeably. > Laura Dalgarno-Platt > > Hi Laura I have noted your comment about Christina being interchangeable with female Christian but I am writing as I am intrigued by your surname. My wife's family line includes some DALGARNOs but we are having some difficulty determining which ones they are. Margret DALGARNO married Norman MELDRUM in Aberdeen St Nicholas on 4 August 1828. We know a lot about his ancestors and about a hundred descendants. However all we know about Margaret is that she was born in Aberdeen around 1805 and her parents were William DALGARDEN and Margaret RUNCIMAN, married in Old Machar on 13 November 1796. I have not been able to trace William DALGARDEN/DALGARNO's parents and wonder if you have any further information. Regards Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net

There are a lot of female Christians in the Shetland part of my family tree and most of those used Christian and Christina interchangeably. Laura Dalgarno-Platt > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:09:05 -0700 > From: bethanyc@aebc.com > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Variations on the forename: "Christian" > > I should have added that I now leave the gender > question on forms blank, or choose "Both" if > that's offered. I was thinking of new researchers > who have yet to learn the tricks and who might > give up, thinking that great-granny isn't recorded > anywhere. And researchers of the future will > indeed, as Janet says, have to learn that trick > quickly with the large number of formerly > masculine names now being used for both -- > although they then tend to become gradually > thought of as girls' names and the process starts > over with different ones, and a trend to use > formerly girls' names for boys is never, > historically, as common. > > Incidentally, the name Christian was used in the > British Isles for both boy and girl babies from > c1200 on (or at least, first appearing in records > around that date). It was never one of the heavily > used names like Elizabeth, Ann, Mary, Margaret or > Jane for girls, for example, but it hung in there > for centuries, originally in honour of various > saints named Christian or Christianus. However, > the modest surge in popularity and the division > into a distinctly male and female form happened in > England with the publication of Bunyan's > "Pilgrim's Progress" in 1678 (Part I) and 1684 > (Part II), the two parts being about the religious > pilgrimages of the husband and wife Christian and > Christiana. Interestingly (well, I think it's > interesting, but then I tend to go riding off on > my hobbyhorse when names are discussed), in > Scotland and Ireland the majority of "Christians" > (the basic name, setting aside the variants) were > girls, while more often the pet-name "Christie" > was used as a formally given name for boys, > leading to the use of that as a surname. > > Margaret Gibbs > whose father wanted to name her Marilyn because > "Margaret is so common in Scotland" (being the > most-used name for girls there for centuries > thanks to Saint/Queen Margaret), but who is > grateful her mother's wishes won out because the > name is woven so tightly into the fabric of the > country and binds me to so many, many ancestresses > > > > > > > > On 03/10/2013 1:33 PM, Janet wrote: > > I follow what you are saying about there being a male name "Christian" but isnt that late > > 19th century onward. > > I just wonder; those who know about variations in name giving, and my, dont we find some > > in names given to children nowadays, > > would we not leave the gender part of the search without selection?. I usually do, so it > > allows all results which are mostly > > sorted correctly gender-wise. Of course we have to use our eyes and not let the modern > > brain lead the way. > > > > Janet > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From:<bethanyc@aebc.com> > > To:<aberdeen@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Variations on the forename: "Christian" > > > > > >> While I have the same pronunciation preference as > >> Venita, the problem that can raise for family > >> history researchers is that in England (and other > >> countries) "Christian" is a male forename, and if > >> you check off Female on some forms while searching > >> for a Scottish ancestress by that name, you get > >> back "0 results". But then try for a census record > >> using the name of someone else in her family, and > >> there little "Kursteen" (as one record had it) is, > >> as a daughter of the family. My paternal > >> Aberdonian grandparents and relatives all > >> pronounced the personal name "Christian" as > >> something close to the Scandinavian "Kirsten", > >> hence the abbreviated common pet-name Kirstie. > >> However, they pronounced the adjective referring > >> to the religion as "Kristin" (and my maternal > >> Borders relatives pronounced the personal name > >> also as "Kristin"). I remember as a small child > >> finding this fascinating, which probably helped to > >> nudge me eventually towards my academic career in > >> historical and comparative onomastics -- I even > >> managed to work my gt-gt-grandmother > >> Christian-et-al into the oral defence of my PhD > >> thesis on Scottish names. (Probably startled the > >> lady into a quick spin in her grave: "What? Did > >> the lassie just take my name in vain? What on > >> earth is the bairn talking about?" :-) ) > >> > >> Margaret Gibbs > >> > >> > >> On 03/10/2013 10:44 AM, Venita wrote: > >>> My grandfather, who was half Scottish and half English, had a sister named Christian. > >>> My grandmother always pronounced her name Christie-ann, but many in the family called > >>> her "Christy" and spelled her name Christine or Christina. I vote for the original > >>> spelling and pronunciation! > >>> > >>> Venita > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 2 October 2013 16:54, Margaret Gibbs<bethanyc@aebc.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> And there are other nicknames for Christian, which is what appears on my > >>>>> gt-gt-grandmother's christening record. I was just listing the variants I'd > >>>>> found for her in her christening, marriage, census, and death records. Her > >>>>> husband registered her death as "Christina", although my grandfather said > >>>>> he never heard him call his wife anything but "Kirsty" -- or "my love" -- > >>>>> and on her marriage certificate she signed her name quite clearly as > >>>>> "Christianna". The family joke was that she decided to "frilly up" her name > >>>>> to match her wedding gown :-) . > >>>>> > >>>>> Margaret Gibbs > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com > >>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > >>>>> message > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com > >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > >>> message > >>> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with > >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Alison, It is appearing that it will be best to hire a car for at least 2-3 days to visit all that I want to see. I can only imagine how my areas of interest will expand over the next 9 months or so. The links that you have detailed will be so helpful. My great grandparents were married at Boghead of Cobairdy, so a visit there will also be on the list. Also, thank you for your suggestion of writing to the Aberdeen Press and Journal in the hope of contacting relatives and meeting them. That will be absolutely amazing if it should come to fruition. I am amazed at the response and helpful information that has been given to me from the researchers this list . Regards Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B&A Smith Sent: Monday, 7 October 2013 6:07 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Yule -visit to Aberdeen Huntly and Monymusk might just be feasible by public transport, depending on the exact locations you hope to visit, but you'll need a hire car for Kildrummy and Forgue. Huntly is served by both rail and bus. Bus timetables can be downloaded from http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/publictransport/timetables/index.asp. You might find it useful to refer to the map of burial grounds at http://www.abdnet.co.uk/burialgrounds/index.html. The Aberdeenshire Council website also includes an excellent mapping facility at http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/local/map.asp, while for historic maps the OS series is a good way of pinpointing dwellings no longer in existence. Digital copies from the National Library of Scotland can be viewed (and purchased very reasonably) at http://maps.nls.uk/series/index.html. It's well worth checking out http://www.northeastscotlandroots.com for a guide to resources and research facilities in the area and there is additional helpful information at www.anesfhs.org.uk. >From Aberdeen it will take about an hour by car to get to Kildrummy, slightly less to Huntly & Forgue, and only about 1/2 hour to Monymusk. Huntly itself is probably as good a base as any (see http://www.huntly.net/) and Inverurie might also be suitable (though accommodation there is just as costly there as in Aberdeen). You might also consider writing to the Aberdeen Press & Journal ( http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/), specifying the families of interest to you, and inviting relatives to get in contact in advance of your trip. Happy hunting! Alison On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Rhonda Ross <fracj@icloud.com> wrote: > Hello to all listers, > > Over a period of many years I have been researching the Yule and Anderson > families. They lived in the Huntly, Kildrummy, Monymusk and Forgue area's > in the 1800's. I am considering taking a trip to Aberdeen next year and > seek suggestions on where to base my stay. Would I need to hire a car or > could I travel on public transport? I would love to visit the graves of my > families and of course if I could meet up with unknown relatives that old > be wonderful. I have never travelled outside of Australia so I am a little > apprehensive but look forward to this journey and want to make the most of > every day. > > Other names in my families are Wattie and McKnight. > > Many thanks > > Rhonda in Cairns Australia > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Gavin, I will definitely be armed with as much concise information for this trip and after the response from this list I am already more the wiser and cannot wait to visit. I must acknowledge the work that people such as yourself do with the indexing of inscriptions which is so helpful for people all over the world interested in their family history. You do a wonderful job. Thank you Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Bell Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2013 10:54 PM To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] Yule -visit to Aberdeen On 08/10/2013 10:01, Rhonda Ross wrote: > ... > > I had not thought of going to the Aberdeen & NE Scotland Family History > Society but would consider that given my Great Grandfather William Yule is > mentioned in many newspaper articles in the 1880's as a magistrate and > draper from Duke Street Huntly. He has been a mysterious character during my > research and would dearly love to discover more about him. The family did > end up in London so will spend some time there also. > > ... > > From what you have said it would be more time effective to hire a car for a > short time though I must say I do enjoy doing the public transport thing. > May be hire for a day or so and do the cemetery's. Even WITH a car you might be struggling to cover the burial grounds in your target parishes in a day - particularly if you haven't previously established where they are and what they are called! The parish of Huntly, for example, does not contain a kirkyard called "Huntly" (although there are two ancient kirkyards within the parish). You are also unlikely to find many ancestors if you simply turn up and start walking round. Which is why ANESFHS has, since we started up, been working at recording and indexing the inscriptions of as many of the Northeast's 300-plus burial grounds as possible. Of the parishes you mention, we have published a booklet of Memorial Inscriptions for Monymusk and all persons mentioned in the inscriptions there (and in all the other burial grounds we have published) will be found in the Index at: http://www.anesfhs.org.uk/databank/miindex/miindex.php The 2 burial grounds in the parish of Huntly were published independently, so are not included in the Online Index, but you would be able to consult them (or buy copies!) at the ANESFHS centre in King Street, where you will also find a set of unpublished MIs for Forgue. Gavin Bell MI Index Co-ordinator ANESFHS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ABERDEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joyce, F.Y.I. Have found the articles in Find My past Thank you. Will try to sort the Aberdeen Press, Mary -----Original Message----- From: aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aberdeen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Fidler Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2013 8:49 a.m. To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ABERDEEN] James Murray M.P. The Find My Past site has many articles about Sir James, including a large obituary which appeared in he Aberdeen Press and Journal on 13 April 1933. I have only glanced at a few pages, but there is at least 1 photograph and 1 drawing of him. I didn't explore far enough to see if there was any mention of his family. HTH, Joyce Fidler ---- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Legarth" <legarthm@ How do I find information about Sir James Murray M.P. for Aberdeen East ? His name is mentioned in the New Zealand 1920 Obituary, as the Nephew of James Duff Murray who emigrated to New Zealand 1863. James ( junior), will also be the Nephew of my husband's Gt Grandfather, William Duff Murray. The Murray Family lived in the Woodside area, of Aberdeen. As far as I know only 2 brothers emigrated to New zealand, I know nothing about the other Siblings other than the names which are from census. Donald 1832: Mary Ann 1834; William Duff 1836 ( he emigrated to N.Z.) James Duff ( emigrated to N.Z. c 1839;) & David Smith 1832. Perhaps someone has the Family in their Tree ? I Googled James the MP with no luck Mary __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8893 (20131008) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com